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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday July 16 2017, @02:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the all-your-face-are-belong-to-us dept.

"Congress allowed the government to scan faces of foreign nationals to keep track of visa overstays. But now that's set to be extended to Americans worrying some privacy advocates."


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:01AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:01AM (#539785)

    Other modern countries like New Zealand already do this. While I always opt out of the back scatter machines (irrational fear of cancer), I honestly have no issue with having my photo taken. Everyone here has a driver's license right?

    What concerns me more is career politicians that encourage violating federal immigration and election law as a "sanctuary city". Gives them a free pass on issues like gun violence, welfare fraud, and running pension deficits for years without a budget in place. "Sanctuary city" is code for voter fraud happens here.

    The legal immigration process isn't that bad, and have no issue with bringing over the best and brightest. Wife helped a few family members go through it recently.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:19AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:19AM (#539790)

    It's at least three cameras pulling a *FULL FACIAL* photograph anytime you want to board a plane. This was discussed a while back. They are basically making 3d images of your face.

    Why should this concern you?

    Because it makes it that much easier to place you somewhere when they want to convict you of a crime in the future, even if you've never been there in you life. Just get a guy wearing one of those hollywood greenscreen masks with markers for skeletal positioning, then take the 3d modelled head and overlap it (maybe inside of a hoodie in order to obscure details, and viola, you are now the prime suspect in a robbery, murder, or other government orchestrated event, allowing them try you in front of a jury of your peers too stupid to get out of jury duty or with a law enforcement friendly background. Enjoy your felony loss of privileges and/or 10-life in prison.

    See if you can keep laughing about it in a few presidential terms when it has come to pass.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:38AM (#539795)

      Just wondering if I can substitute a violin for the viola you mentioned as part of the imposter's outfit? What if the target preferred a harmonica? Could a jew's harp be substituted?

      So many questions, so few answers. I just wish I could imagine something, and voila!, a viola, or jew's harp, would appear.

      cheers,

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @11:00AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @11:00AM (#539868)

      You oppose the will of the God written of in the Old Testament Book of the Law.

      You are against men marrying young girls.

      You deserve your fate.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:19AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:19AM (#539791)

    It's not an irrational fear of cancer. When they give out the irradiation figures for those machines, they apply it to bodyweight and say it is a low dose, but the wavelength they use is all stopped within a millimetre or two of the surface of the skin. What would be a low dose spread oveer the whole body is actually a high dose for a small part of the body.
    And thats assuming that the machines are adjusted correctly - a big assumption when they are being run by semi-trained kiddie-groping monkeys.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @07:23AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @07:23AM (#540213)

      Backscatter x-ray machines use x-rays... Millimeter wave scanners use lower frequencies which are less damaging assuming they only go 2 millimetres deep: https://www.propublica.org/special/scanning-the-scanners-a-side-by-side-comparison [propublica.org]

      If it's not x rays and really stopped by the skin then I'm not as worried. The skin is exposed to all sorts of cancer causing crap everyday. Sunlight, toxins, physical trauma. Skin cancer detection and survival rates are better than many internal cancers.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18 2017, @02:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18 2017, @02:54AM (#540716)

        NO! SOME skin cancers do. Melanoma, you're golden - it has ~98% survival in the USA! But there are LOTS of skin cancers which are > 80% mortal, too.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @04:26AM (#539792)

    So, you're a terrorist, then?

    See how this works?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @07:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @07:31AM (#539831)

    Everyone here has a driver's license right?

    The problem is that they're conducting mass surveillance on the populace using facial recognition technology and other methods, which will destroy freedom and democracy. This isn't simply a matter of having your picture taken and having it appear on a card.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @02:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 16 2017, @02:57PM (#539900)

    Australia already has.
    Now they want biometrics including retinal scan too, but there is tech to get that from a meter away now.