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(CNN)This week, a trillion-ton hunk of ice broke off Antarctica.
You probably know that. It was all over the Internet.
Among the details that have been repeated ad nauseam: The iceberg is nearly the size of Delaware, which prompted some fun musing on Twitter about where exactly Delaware is and how anyone is supposed to approximate the square footage of that US state. The ice, which has been named A68, represents more than 12% of the Larsen C ice shelf, a sliver on the Antarctic Peninsula. And most important: None of this has anything to do with man-made climate change.
The problem: That last detail -- the climate one -- is misleading at best.
At worst, it's wrong.
Some scientists think this has a lot to do with global warming.
I spent most of Thursday on the phone with scientists, talking to them about the huge iceberg off Antarctica and what it means. Here are my five takeaways.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/world/sutter-iceberg-antarctica-climate-change/index.html
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(Score: 2) by Sulla on Monday July 17 2017, @02:48PM (4 children)
Or we could just convert the largest 15 tanker ships to nuclear - http://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars-in-the-world/8182. [industrytap.com]
Maybe if your first answer wasn't "change your lifestyle you pig" the other side would be more willing to work with you. As it is almost everything that needs to be done to save the planet mostly effects the lifestyle of the side who doesn't want to do it that way. The correct way to do this is to provide them with economic reasons to change. Design a vehicle that has comparable performance to what they expect and make it economically competitive, show that the economic costs of beef production are higher than that of pork and chicken, etc. Find a way to provide profit to them instead of just telling them to suck it.
Until then the left can go fuck itself. I have made changes to my daily life where I can to be more accommodating, but the answer is always an insult about not doing enough.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @03:13PM (1 child)
But maybe the other side is wrong, and changing your lifestyle really is what is needed? Have you heard the (asinine) expression "have your cake and eat it too"? The other side knows their gains are ill-gotten, they know how they do business is wrong and all they want to do is to continue raping and pillaging everything and everyone. And they find useful idiots who actually buy into the idea they present that you should let them do what they do because one day, you too could get some of those ill-gotten riches.
If anything good comes from Global Climate Change, it will be that a large percentage of these useful idiots will be getting culled by the effects of it...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 18 2017, @02:06AM
Then there would be evidence for the assertion rather than just sanctimonious judgments and status signaling.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Monday July 17 2017, @03:33PM
Heh, you mistake the nature of my remark. I don't do this because of a lifestyle choice. It's a simple reality from medical problems. I'm apart entirely from greenpeace types and therefore could not possibly care less what someone does on an individual level for transport. But the fact has been made clear that next to not being such whores for beef (and therefore farting cows) reducing our reliance on gas and emissions resulting from it is a pretty solid next step that doesn't require any technology changes beyond continuously improving emissions standards. Which is something being worked against as hard as possible currently, so that's unfortunate. By all means drive a big ol' gas trucker around if you want to stick it to "the left". Biology doesn't care what your affiliation is. These are facts. And are as plain to me as saying the ocean is salty.
Also in my personal experience not driving and therefore not having to deal with what goes along with it (insurance, maintenance, payments) has been an overall simplification. I have lived in the desert and a state capitol. This remains true. The rest of the world manages fine in a lot of cases and america itself managed fine before the industry wanted to capitalize on suburb migration. We could have been a leader in public transport had it not been for this.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @05:06PM
I understand the "don't change my lifestyle" up to a point, but there are things that should change. We need to move away from the disposable culture, we are generating too much trash. We don't need to stop personal transportation, we just need to transition to more sustainable methods such as mass transit and electric vehicles powered by renewable sources.
Such lifestyle changes are not about pleasing some other political group, they are about saving the planet for the species! Your attitude sucks and reeks of entitlement.