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The Internet Engineering Task Force has taken the rare (and possibly costly) decision to relocate an upcoming meeting out of America.
IETF 102, scheduled for mid-2018, was booked for the San Francisco Hilton, but instead will be held in the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal.
The reason, as announced by IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) chair Leslie Daigle, is the President Donald Trump administration: American travel restrictions make attendance uncertain.
[...] travel restrictions have been bounced around between the US legal system and the White House, and the Oversight Committee hasn't seen anything to reduce that uncertainty.
[...] it is impossible to know or predict the extent of the restrictions placed on individuals attempting to attend IETF 102 twelve months from now, or the level of uncertainty that will exist, and the impact that will have on the ability for the IETF to hold a successful meeting in the United States at that time. However, the current orientation and actions of the US government provide no basis for expecting conditions at the US border to improve for non-citizens.
[...] if the IETF cannot stage something in San Francisco, it will likely lose any deposit paid to the venue.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @03:00PM (3 children)
Not just that,
with that wording, as the US is currently involved in several civil wars with islamist extremists, you can ban all of the US to fly as well.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by gawdonblue on Monday July 17 2017, @10:03PM (2 children)
It goes without saying that US citizens should be banned from travelling to other countries, for a whole raft of reasons.
They're very loud, for one. Nice quiet suburban mom back home in (insert US city name here1) becomes a nasal foghorn that wakes up half the neighbourhood shouting out to her husband about how cute some feral animal is.
1. Why do Americans always state exactly where they're from? Everyone else says their country name when you ask2, and all you really want to know is whether they're from Canada or the US3 but they insist on telling you the name of the town and state they live in. Only Americans do this.
2. Actually, Americans usually tell you exactly where they're from within the first 5 seconds of meeting them. I've assumed this is just a nationwide misunderstanding of Dale Carnegie: "Oh, hiiiiii! I'm Susan and this is my husband Dave and we're from Sparrowfart, North Dakota. You know, right near the border with Seattle4. We have two children. Randy, our youngest, is in junior high, and [insert list of Randy's achievements here]. Tammy, our eldest, is in college and [insert list of Tammy's achievements here and usually includes who they've dated; I don't know why]. Dave works at [insert obscure business name here, which you're supposed to recognise; I never do] and he's just got 20 years of service5. Dave tell them about what happened last week with your boss...". Carnegie's point was to appear6 to be interested in the other person's home, family and work. Oh well.
3. Don't know why, but Canadians sound more American than Americans. They should get get an accent of their own.
4. North Dakota might be somewhere near a state called Seattle. I'd look it up but it probably doesn't matter.
5. It always seems to be after 20 years service. I assume this is when Americans are allowed to take leave.
6. I actually attended a Dale Carnegie course once. My work paid for it. Embarrassingly, I got kicked out for calling it "How to Win Friends and Manipulate People". After attending six sessions, I honestly thought that was the goal. They couldn't influence me otherwise.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18 2017, @12:18AM
The explanation of number 3 is that Canadians watch a lot of American TV while holed up for the winter.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Tuesday July 18 2017, @01:58PM
Americans state where they're from because US states/Canadian provinces are mostly as large or larger than your country, and despite that, there is a very large amount of movement within states and between them, and any random American has a decent chance of not only knowing where the hell Bumfuck, MiddleOfNowhere is, but probably their cousin lives there or they stopped through on a business trip last year.