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The Internet Engineering Task Force has taken the rare (and possibly costly) decision to relocate an upcoming meeting out of America.
IETF 102, scheduled for mid-2018, was booked for the San Francisco Hilton, but instead will be held in the Fairmont Hotel in Montreal.
The reason, as announced by IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) chair Leslie Daigle, is the President Donald Trump administration: American travel restrictions make attendance uncertain.
[...] travel restrictions have been bounced around between the US legal system and the White House, and the Oversight Committee hasn't seen anything to reduce that uncertainty.
[...] it is impossible to know or predict the extent of the restrictions placed on individuals attempting to attend IETF 102 twelve months from now, or the level of uncertainty that will exist, and the impact that will have on the ability for the IETF to hold a successful meeting in the United States at that time. However, the current orientation and actions of the US government provide no basis for expecting conditions at the US border to improve for non-citizens.
[...] if the IETF cannot stage something in San Francisco, it will likely lose any deposit paid to the venue.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday July 17 2017, @03:43PM (2 children)
Ladder accidents aren't very high up on the causes of death in the US. They aren't zero, but it's not like thousands of people are falling off ladders to their death every year. Occupational risks that are far more significant than ladders include getting murdered (especially if you work as a convenience store clerk), black lung disease (for miners), and getting hit by tree branches (for lumberjacks).
My general view on the reason why the government is doing far more in the name of fighting terrorism than it is in the name of ladder safety is because fighting terrorism creates the "America! Fuck yeah!" vibe that so many people love.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 17 2017, @05:28PM
We don't have much potential for exponentially increasing ladder accidents. Terrorism does have that potential, since most of it comes from a small but rapidly growing segment of the population.
Ladder accidents normally affect only the person who is most responsible. When others are affected, they are almost always at least partially responsible. One can generally prevent ladder accidents by avoiding ladders; this is not really an option with terrorism.
There is no plausible military or border control response to ladder accidents, but there are many for terrorism. The fact that we can do something about thing X doesn't imply that nothing should be done about thing Y. If we could reduce ladder accidents with a bombing run or import ban, we sure as heck would. We probably would ban ladders if not for the fact that people would instead make wobbly stacks of chairs and buckets.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Tuesday July 18 2017, @12:49AM
It's because there's money in war. Lots of it.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek