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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the different-strokes-for-different-folks dept.

Another slow news day; yet another sign language glove. But this time it is different!

Specifically, the DailyFail covers a New Scientist report about US$100 gloves which translate ASL [American Sign Language].

It is perhaps not as medically useful as a rectal haptic logging device or stroke recovery glove, perhaps not as visionary and audacious as the 1989 Nintendo Power Glove, but perhaps some of the numerous sign language gloves can be used as ambidexterous VR gloves? Likewise, when the crypto-currency market crashes again there'll be a huge surplus of GPUs for VR.

Full disclosure: I'm easily amused; especially with purile jokes about cyber logging and stroking aids. However, in the last two months, I filed a haptics patent (which started as a purile joke). Also, I'm working on a US$300 immersive sound system and I'll have a large number of spare I/O pins.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:38PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:38PM (#541534)

    It's spelled puerile, from the Latin puer - a boy.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:45PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:45PM (#541539)

      Idea for xkcd comic Proposal:

      MY HOBBY

      [draw stick figures here]

      STICKING MY FINGER UP A BOY'S RECTUM

      Associated Text: It's OK; the framed diplomas on the wall say I'm a licensed proctologist.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @06:42PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @06:42PM (#541575)

        "STICKING MY FINGER UP A BOY'S RECTUM"
        An autobiography by Randall Munroe

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:42PM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 19 2017, @05:42PM (#541537) Homepage Journal

    It seems they are only further complicating an already complicated communication.

    Our deaf person has a smart phone, onto which he is going to install an app, which will translate his signs into text, so that hearing people can read his text.

    First objection is - our deaf person can probably read text, or he would have a tough time using a smart phone, amirite? So, the non-hearing dude can read a screen full of text. Meaning - he can almost certainly TYPE a screenful of text. (I'm not even considering that his phone's screen uses sign language instead of text. I just can't see that happening.)

    Second objection is, of course, privacy. I have an app that translates my first language into the language that all the barbarians around me use. And, that app is almost certainly reporting back to the "developer". Fek, that developer doesn't need to know that I'm trying to set up a date with my favorite fetishist, does he? Next up, he'll be trying to sell me a bunch of fetish crap that I don't need, because my favorite fetishist supplise her own hand made fetish crap.

    Third objection is, while I'm busy waving my hands around, creating the text that I intend to show up on screen, the recipient is concentrating on my hands, NOT on his phone, or mine. How do I make him understand that he should look at the phone, and stop staring at my b̶o̶o̶b̶s̶ hands, and look at the screen?

    Maybe if I saw this thing in use, I'd see the utiility of the app. Then again, I suspect that there are better, easier ways to communicate - assuming of course, that our deaf person routinely uses a smart phone.

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday July 19 2017, @06:22PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday July 19 2017, @06:22PM (#541566)

      I just imagined someone signing in front of their phone's camera, only to have an army of poorly trained (and sleepy) Indians sending texts in real time to whoever he is talking to.

      The result would be similar to a google translate of the russian or Chinese transcript made by a certified ASL user.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @07:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @07:07PM (#541589)

      First objection is - our deaf person can probably read text, or he would have a tough time using a smart phone, amirite?

      Presumably, communicating via ASL translator is faster than typing or writing.

      Second objection is, of course, privacy.

      Yeah, don't use phone-translators for hush-hush stuff. But unless you're a secret agent or career criminal, that's a minor restriction

      Third objection is, while I'm busy waving my hands around, creating the text that I intend to show up on screen, the recipient is concentrating on my hands, NOT on his phone, or mine.

      Umm, use your hand to point at the screen?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @11:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 19 2017, @11:36PM (#541694)

      Overall your comments have merit. I will point out one thing, though:

      First objection is - our deaf person can probably read text, or he would have a tough time using a smart phone, amirite? So, the non-hearing dude can read a screen full of text. Meaning - he can almost certainly TYPE a screenful of text. (I'm not even considering that his phone's screen uses sign language instead of text. I just can't see that happening.)

      Yes, probably. However, talking is much faster than typing, especially on a phone. This is part of the reason why so many text shortcuts have shown up. I sur u gt it, amirte? I have every reason to think that sign language is also substantially faster than typing. As such, there is value in it over a "type on keyboard, hand it over, erase and rewrite."

      As somebody who has had to try to have a written conversation on a piece of paper with a deaf person, I can absolutely understand why this would be useful... ignoring the cost and everything else you listed.

    • (Score: 2) by cafebabe on Thursday July 20 2017, @12:03AM

      by cafebabe (894) on Thursday July 20 2017, @12:03AM (#541702) Journal

      People keep designing gloves for transcribing sign language. As you've noted, they are terrible for in-person communication. As a method of dictating or transcribing text, such gloves may be faster than typing. Unfortunately, only a minority knows sign language. Fortunately, the designs would be useful for Virtual Reality. So, it is a case of people pushing an idea of marginal use for minority while repeatedly ignoring a potentially larger market.

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  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Wednesday July 19 2017, @07:17PM (1 child)

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Wednesday July 19 2017, @07:17PM (#541594) Homepage

    Specifically, the DailyFail covers

    If you really can't resist being so puerile, maybe you should just avoiding using The Daily Mail as a source at all.

    It is perhaps not as medically useful as a rectal haptic logging device

    Did you link to the right story there? I can't see anything about anything rectal.

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