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on Sunday July 30 2017, @11:28PM
from the Rosenhan-Milgram-Dunning-Kruger-research dept.
from the Rosenhan-Milgram-Dunning-Kruger-research dept.
From Wikileaks (via Vinay Gupta):
Judge rules two psychologists, Mitchell and Jessen, who made millions as consultants for the CIA's torture program can face trial.
How do you get into the business of being a torture consultant? Good question because when they started:
Neither man had ever carried out a real interrogation, had language skills or expertise on al Qaeda - the chief enemy in the war on terror - when the CIA handpicked Mitchell and Jessen to spearhead its supposed intelligence gathering program shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Their psychology backgrounds were in family therapy; their Ph.D. dissertations were on high blood pressure.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by ledow on Monday July 31 2017, @11:07AM
Oh, gosh, all we have to do is put our jobs on the line for our morals, instead!
Er... yes. That's exactly why you don't tolerate this kind of stuff.
Of course you will lose your job.
But that doesn't mean you should allow it "just because you'll lose your job otherwise".
The Nazis were given a standard of "was your life in immediate danger if you refused" as to whether they were co-erced or forced to do things. "You may not work in the military again" is far below that.
Of course it's brave, too, but that's not the point (like Manning/Snowden but for something that actually MATTERED). The point is that they STILL GOT AWAY WITH IT, even with him trying to report it. It still happened. And for him to "stop trying to make a fuss about it" is basically capitulation.
No-one says it's easy to bring down a corrupt government. But if you have to fight against your own morals to go to work each day, there's something wrong.