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posted by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @03:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the vote-for-the-motion,-or-roko's-basilisk-will-run-you-over dept.

United States House Republicans expect to introduce bills later this week that would bar states from setting their own rules for self-driving cars and take other steps to remove obstacles to putting such vehicles on the road, a spokeswoman said.

The legislative action comes as major automakers are joining forces with auto suppliers and other groups to prod Congress into action.

Last month, a US House of Representatives Energy and Commerce subcommittee held a hearing on a Republican draft package of 14 bills that would allow US regulators to exempt up to 100,000 vehicles a year per manufacturer from federal motor vehicle safety rules that prevent the sale of self-driving vehicles without human controls.

[...] GM, Alphabet Inc., Tesla Inc., and others have been lobbying Congress to pre-empt rules under consideration in California and other states that could limit self-driving vehicle deployment.

As the number of self-driving cars on the road grows, will drivers proceeding on manual game the self-driving algorithms and lead to a ban on non-self-driving cars?


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  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:00PM (4 children)

    by looorg (578) on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:00PM (#550548)

    Will an autonomous vehicle still require a drivers license? This could have interesting implications. Will the DMV go away? The entire drivers education market will more or less be eliminated and wiped out. Manual driving will, or could become, be a very limited niche segment.

    If self-driving becomes the norm then eventually it will probably lead to the ban on non-self driving. After all if it is found that self-driving is safer and better then non-self driving would be a risk and if not out right banned it will probably be squeezed out of the market by just having a giant insurance requirement that will be unsustainable for most people. Non-self driving cars will become a luxury item in the common market. There will still be vehicles that have to have manual control options tho -- law enforcement vehicles comes to mind but also probably more common out in the countryside. But in suburbia and the cities it will just die and go away, there will be no room or need for people to have self-driving-vehicles.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by rondon on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:56PM (3 children)

    by rondon (5167) on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:56PM (#550570)

    I think there are a ton of edge cases that will be incredibly hard to automate, which will mean we have human drivers for a loooooooong time. Few examples off the top of my head:

    - Pulling a boat (and putting that boat into the water at a boat ramp)
    - Pulling a horse trailer (with incredibly valuable horses inside - some dressage and race horses valued at > $1 million)
    - Off road
    - Gravel roads

    Each of these provides unique challenges that will be much more difficult to program than simply worrying about 4 wheels on a well defined track. The variables involved with simply pulling a trailer that can have different weights... doubt that commuter trucks will ever be totally self driving.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @01:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @01:43PM (#550581)

      Forget the trailer edge cases, some pickup truck already comes (or has demonstrated) smart reversing that does a "perfect" job of handling the trailer.

      The edge case I'm interested in is going out for a drive in the country like Chuck Berry[1]. A self-driving car is unlikely to have any curiosity about what might be found down that little country lane, or understand the concept of "no particular place to go."

      [1]
      Riding along in my automobile
      My baby beside me at the wheel
      I stole a kiss at the turn of a mile
      My curiosity runnin' wild
      Crusin' and playin' the radio
      With no particular place to go

      Riding along in my automobile
      I was anxious to tell her the way I feel
      So I told her softly and sincere
      And she leaned and whispered in my ear
      Cuddlin' more and drivin' slow
      With no particular place to go

      No particular place to go
      So we parked way out on the Kokomo
      The night was young and the moon was gold
      So we both decided to take a stroll
      Can you imagine the way I felt
      I couldn't unfasten her safety belt

      Ridin' along in my calaboose
      Still trying to get her belt a-loose
      All the way home I held a grudge
      For the safety belt that wouldn't budge
      Crusin' and playin' the radio
      With no particular place to go

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:57PM (#550763)

        I to elude Facebook on the weekends and hop the turbine freight to far outside the Wired. My uncle has a country place that nobody knows about, says it used to be a farm. He preserved for me an old machine for 50-odd years.

        Wind
        In my hair
        Shifting and drifting
        Mechanical music
        Adrenaline surge

        Well-oiled leather
        Hot metal and oil
        The scented country air

        Sunlight on chrome
        The blur of the landscape
        Every nerve aware

        Just have to keep an eye out for those Canyonero drivers.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:53PM (#550831)

      Also - drive thru's, parking on lots without lines, detours, accidents, drunk drivers, etc ad nauseum