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Spotted at Andrew Plotkin's blog is an interesting article on the two word control panel in the original Apollo Guidance Computer, which talks about the use of "VERB" and "NOUN" controls on the original instrument panel.
This then links to a Discover Magazine Article How Verbs and Nouns Got Apollo to the Moon, which describes how the Apollo astronauts interacted with the guidance computer by:
[...] entering Noun-Verb combination commands in lieu of a string of written words. To keep it simple, the commands were written out in short hand. For example, V37N31E stood for Verb 37 Noun 31 and Enter to get the program running.
[...] It might not seem like it, but the Noun-Verb arrangement and verbiage comes from the fact that the computer engineers who built and used the Apollo guidance computer were also inventing it as they went along. They didn't have backgrounds in computer engineering because the field didn't exist then as it does today. But they all spoke English, so carrying over the same language structure simplified things for everyone. It's a perfect example of the brilliant simplicity that went into so much engineering of the Apollo era.
(Score: 0) by MyOpinion on Monday September 04 2017, @10:02PM (2 children)
You misunderstand: see here [youtube.com], "rooster trails" with billowing, NOT parabolic.
Did I mention "conspiracy"? No I did not: you brought it up. You waste your time trying to label me with your ad-hominem and you evade arguments, and you try to come about as "immune to those silly conspiracy theories". Label how you will, this is not going to work for you, because science is about sticking to facts and objective verifiable truths, and because the discussion will be archived for everyone in the future to browse through it. I am not making any extraordinary claims here (like "I went to the moon and back"), I merely demand proof for them, and first thing that happens is a personal attack from you and troll tagging.
So, according to you, a "Troll" is someone that dares question NASA, with evidence.
You cannot be serious: what use would a telescope have been, with no atmosphere to block it? Think again.
In any case, it would be much more useful than golf clubs.
Again, treat this as a court case. The image is manipulated, and it has a crop box around it. That casts reasonable doubt. The original image, from NASA (download it and examine it YOURSELF, do not take my word for it) It would not work as alibi for, say, some crime committed where Aldrin is a suspect, and he provides this picture as his alibi ("I was on the moon, your Honor. Here is a photograph showing the Earth from the moon.")
Yes it has [aulis.com].
As for "Tim Peak", sorry I meant "Don Pettit" [youtube.com]. Watch him here spending your tax money in "important space experiments" [youtube.com].
You are stuck on a "yes it is" and "no it's not" mindset yelling your opinion as fact and not backing it up, yet you demand to be spoon-fed citations and facts like a spoiled child; you demand without providing yourself; you try to "brand" me as a conspiracy theorist or whatever instead of sticking to the facts; you employ bias and ignore points that are not convenient to the side you are biased to (like the moon rock, and the way you brush off the doctored photographs) hence I will not give a rat's ass for "offending" your feelings on your astronaut heroes or NASA- especially since I do not find the moon landing a convincing story, I stand my ground AND am backing it up with facts, as science needs to be observable, testable, repeatable and verifiable, and all you do is yell. I will gladly stand my ground until I am blue in the face when having to deal with mindsets like the one you are trapped into. But here, since I find this "moon landing" extremely unconvincing, and it is very unbecoming of you to try ad-hominem personal attacks against someone that has an opinion that you do not agree with, go ahead and have the last word if you want: I am not going to bother more with you until you demonstrate that you can maintain a civilized scientific discussion based on common sense and FACTS and not on hear-say, old wives tales and speculation.
Truth is like a Lion: you need not defend it; let it loose, and it defends itself. https://discord.gg/3FScNwc
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday September 05 2017, @04:37PM
I understood perfectly. That's not billowing. Billowing looks like this [youtube.com].
But there must be one if the moon landings were faked. You can't believe the Moon landings were hoaxed without believeing there was a conspiracy to do so.
I haven't personally attacked you at all. I merely outlined what I would honestly expect to happen.
I haven't said that word once in this discussion, so I don't know why you keep bringing it up as if I have.
What use would a telescope have been for exploring the Moon/scoring Cold War points, which is what they were there to do?
If NASA had wanted a telescope in space they would have and could have just sent one up to LEO for a fraction of the cost. Whatever time was spent doing science on the Moon should be spent doing Moon science. That's just common sense.
When I said "citation needed" earlier it was a pithy way of saying "what image?" So... what image?
He's likely inferring too much from a low quality video, but forgive me if I don't take the time to read and understand the entire paper (have you done so? Could you repeat the process?). There's no way you can accurately measure the angular width of the vehicle for more than a few seconds of that footage, for a start. More info here [braeunig.us], particularly the last section, last sentence notwithstanding.
The main problem is that I haven't got time to start trying to work out exactly what particular piece of evidence you're talking about when you briefly mention one thing or another. I can't read your mind.
What doctored photographs, for instance? I mean, which ones specifically? I can hardly argue the point if I don't know which photo(s) you're talking about.
I've been perfectly civilized. I didn't call you deluded.
And why are you acting like I should be grateful that you've deigned to engage with me? You're just some guy behind a keyboard, same as me.
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(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday September 05 2017, @04:42PM
And re: Don Petit. Do we have any working lunar modules? Or Saturn V rockets? Do any/all of the factories and processes used in the manufacturer of those things still exist?
I don't see how his choice of words is evidence of anything.
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