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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday September 13 2017, @04:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the crappy-job dept.

San Diego workers will power-wash streets with a bleach solution in an attempt to stop the spread of Hepatitis A:

At least 15 people have died in San Diego from an ongoing hepatitis A outbreak. In an effort to stop the spread of the viral liver disease, city officials have begun power-washing streets across the downtown area, according to NBC San Diego.

As of Monday, workers dressed in protective white gear and red hard hats were seen outside spraying the sidewalks with a bleach-based liquid in hopes of killing the virus that lives in human feces. "We're probably going to be doing them every other Monday, see how that works out at least for the time being," Jose Ysea, a city spokesman, told NBC San Diego.

The high-pressure power-washing system using bleach will hopefully remove "all feces, blood, bodily fluids or contaminated surfaces," according to a sanitation plan included in a letter delivered to San Diego city officials, the Associated Press reports. For now, just streets in San Diego are being washed, but in the near future hand-washing and street-sanitizing efforts will be implemented in other cities in the region, Dr. Wilma Wooten, the region's public health officer, told the AP.

Also at LA Times. San Diego outbreak page.

Previously: San Diego Declares Emergency Due to Outbreak of Hepatitis A


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by edIII on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:43PM (9 children)

    by edIII (791) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:43PM (#567323)

    You can't just cry "Hitler!" It's not an argument.

    Actually, these days it is. Especially when we have White Nationalist fucks attempting to take over. Like the other poster said, your bullshit is eerily reminiscent of the hatred and ignorance of those times. I'm not old enough to remember WWII, and you probably aren't either. However, there are people old enough with serial numbers still tatooed on their arms. They are the ones telling the younger generations that the shit is getting to real, and WAY too much like the events leading up to WWII and the Holocaust. I'll certainly take the word of an old jew that emigrated to America and has seen all of our bullshit since 45' when we rescued him from a concentration camp versus your weak and pathetic statement that we can't cry Hitler which isn't what happened. The poster said you SOUNDED like the Nazis, and I can't disagree there.

    YOU should be shot. Making sweeping generalizations about homeless people. You know who really needs to be shot? The assholes and fucking bankers who exploited the Great Depression II: The Fuckening, scooped up huge amounts of houses, and now raise rents and lease them out through AirBnB. The executives shipping factory jobs overseas need to be shot and killed. Basically, the bulk of the 1% need yo be shot and killed because they are far more responsible for the homeless situation then people simply unable to find work, affordable housing, or help. Unemployment only lasts so long, and financial assistance can barely handle food costs at this point, and is wholly insufficient to find housing.

    Maybe, just maybe, businesses being pricks and not letting people go to bathroom is why there is so much shit on the street? What do you expect them to do? Hold it till they have a good job, holding it all the way through the interview? If you gotta go, you gotta go. The city should be putting port-a-potties in places if they don't want piss and shit on the street.

    If you weren't such a stupid fuck you would realize that not every homeless person got there through bad habits and poor character. Try jobs disappearing and what used to be a $750/mo apartment turning into $2500/mo. What are they to do? Put it all on credit till better times? That bubble is about to pop too.

    The only justice is that this country is going to crater and you will be on the streets as well. Let's see you sing the same tune then.

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  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:51PM (4 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:51PM (#567331)

    > The city should be putting port-a-potties in places if they don't want piss and shit on the street.

    "We can't do that, sir. That would encourage them to come. They would look bad, and then that brings fights, and insecurity, and diseases"
    "like Hep A"
    "Exactly. If we did put port-a-potties, there could be an Hep A outbreak"

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by edIII on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:16PM (3 children)

      by edIII (791) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:16PM (#567398)

      That's unreasonable. It's easy to become homeless these days, and you don't need mental illness, poor judgement, or bad character to have it happen to you. Just one hellbound executive fuckface saving enough money for their bonuses by letting you go, and giving the business to China, and BOOM, homeless when the average two weeks worth of savings run out. That's assuming it isn't now days worth of savings if that.

      What are we do? Forcefully put them on trains and ship them out in the middle of nowhere? Send them all to the Four Corners? What people are not accepting is that normal people with skills are becoming homeless unable to make artificially inflated rents or compete in the service industries for slave wages.

      We would spend more shipping them to homeless camps, keeping the camps up, and basically running refugee camps akin to the Syrians in the EU living out hell in limbo. Better put up fences too, otherwise homeless people being humans and all, will simply migrate back to a city or town where they can eek out a living off scraps and people with compassion and empathy. Again, those people ARE US just a few bad steps away.

      The answer isn't to not feed them, not clothe them, and to not provide any infrastructure or housing. Do that, and you have a bunch of humans on your hands that rather inconveniently for us, still possess the urge to live. I've heard that shit from grocery stores when I go in and ask if they would discount some food if a bought a lot of it and gave it to some of the homeless outside. "Oh no, we don't want to encourage them!". Uh huh. About 500 homeless people laying about in my small city living along the train tracks and back alleys near the grocery store. As if the people giving them food are encouraging them to be there. More likely that there isn't any other space for them to occupy since the underpasses are already full.

      Again, creating refugee camps isn't the answer. They will just continue to grow while the Middle Class falls into the Poor class, the Upper Classes consolidate wealth and power, and we eventually have some asshole fuckface yelling angrily to crowds that hate the homeless about his "Final Solution".

      Be careful. It's not a guarantee on which side you would end up on. If it were me, I would put out some fucking port-a-potties and start treating them like they're human beings. That, and put the fucking screws to the rich and 1% to start raising wages (which helps compassionate people provide help) and bring jobs back to America.

      Nah! It's much easier to just hate the homeless right?

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      • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:27PM (2 children)

        by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:27PM (#567408)

        We agree.
        You either missed or ignored the point of my post, though.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:38PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:38PM (#567411)

          Its a sensitive topic, people often respond before carefully considering whether the comment was sarcastic / joking.

        • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:47PM

          by edIII (791) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:47PM (#567420)

          You're right. I missed the quotes. My bad.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:52PM (#567332)

    ^ public infrastructure has been steadily disappearing, it is a class war thing. Public restrooms defunded since they cost money. Public drinking fountains are now a rare occurrence. Phonebooths are gone.

    The US has gone really far down the privatized hole, if you can't afford rent you are truly screwed. Within a few months what little money you saved will be gone, and then you're chances of bouncing back are reduced to futility.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @06:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @06:09PM (#567351)

    ...Actually the economy is really turning around. Perhaps they can move to a location where the cost of living is lower and you can move to your socialist paradise where you will be 'enriched'. Might I recommend Germany?

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by frojack on Wednesday September 13 2017, @10:39PM

    by frojack (1554) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @10:39PM (#567515) Journal

    Like the other poster said, your bullshit is eerily reminiscent of the hatred and ignorance of those times. I'm not old enough to remember WWII, and you probably aren't either.

    Then how can it be eerily reminiscent, fool!!

    Germany, and the US had programs to keep homeless off the street in their own countries well before the war. You can walk around in the wilderness in the US and come upon hand built foot stone bridges over streams, camps (similar to army bases of the time), trails, man made fish weirs, entire roads. Half the National Park Service facilities were built this way. And you find their handiwork hundreds of mile from the nearest main camps.

    All built by the Civilian Conservation Corps. [wikipedia.org]

    My father's brother found the same things in Norway. The Germans had the Todt Organisation - (built the Autobahn 33 to 38). Todt became slave labor only after the war began.
    You never earned much in a CCC camp, it was considered a form of national service. But you did get some money to send home, 3 hots and a cot and learned an actual trade.

    Some of the US CCC headquarter camps were so big they were used as POW camps once the war started.
    The only thing that shut these down was the manpower demands of World War II.

    Now the very idea of a government organization getting anyone off the streets is met with shouts of Concentration Camps.

    Most of the AirBnBs you accuse the banks of setting up in abandoned homes (hint: its not happening) are actually houses the city ends up tearing down because nobody wants to live in them for ANY price, and squatters [buildium.com] move in and trash the place, turn them into a heroin shooting galleries, or set them on fire.

    So Cities make rules to bulldoze these properties. Half of Detroit has been dozed.

    You could turn this whole thing around if Banks could only hold repossessed homes for 3 years max after which they become property of the State (definitely not the City). Then the state would provide the house free to any true homeless who can pay next year's taxes, perhaps a tiny rent, and earn full title to the property after 5-10 years of maintaining it and paying taxes. Repossessed houses would suddenly drop to below market value and housing would become easily available again. There isn't a shortage of such properties.

    The laws just need to be changed in recognition of the fact that private property has to serve a public purpose. Each owner is merely a caretaker of earth's collective resources. We already have zoning laws. This isn't that far from that. I personally know landlords that are charging WAY WAY below market value simply because they like their renters and don't actually need to make more money unless the taxes get raised.

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday September 14 2017, @03:46AM

    by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Thursday September 14 2017, @03:46AM (#567618) Homepage Journal

    Back in the early 1980s, when there were an estimated 100,000 (a bit less than 10% of the population of San Diego) homeless people in NYC, Wayne Barrett wrote a feature piece in the Village Voice about the issues facing homeless people.

    He began the article by asking a pretty reasonable question: "What do homeless people want?"
    He answered his own question (correctly in my view) as follows: "Homes, mostly."

    We have the resources in the US to house all of the people who do not have shelter in a way that can allow them to rejoin society and the economy and have a positive impact on all of us.

    There are those with mental illness and/or substance abuse problems, yes. What shall we do with them, you might ask? One proposed solution (which sounds suspiciously like original AC's idea) would be to remove those folks from society [wikipedia.org].

    Original AC is showing us what he wants us to become.

    I'd much rather see us (*gasp*) house the homeless and treat the mentally ill and those with substance abuse issues (those groups overlap significantly). Not only would those steps get rid of most of the stuff original AC finds unpleasant, it would also allow us to re-integrate many people into our society and economy, making things better for everyone.

    Problem solved. I'm just waiting on various mayors, governors and Federal officials to call and ask me what they should do. But I won't hold my breath..

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