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San Diego workers will power-wash streets with a bleach solution in an attempt to stop the spread of Hepatitis A:
At least 15 people have died in San Diego from an ongoing hepatitis A outbreak. In an effort to stop the spread of the viral liver disease, city officials have begun power-washing streets across the downtown area, according to NBC San Diego.
As of Monday, workers dressed in protective white gear and red hard hats were seen outside spraying the sidewalks with a bleach-based liquid in hopes of killing the virus that lives in human feces. "We're probably going to be doing them every other Monday, see how that works out at least for the time being," Jose Ysea, a city spokesman, told NBC San Diego.
The high-pressure power-washing system using bleach will hopefully remove "all feces, blood, bodily fluids or contaminated surfaces," according to a sanitation plan included in a letter delivered to San Diego city officials, the Associated Press reports. For now, just streets in San Diego are being washed, but in the near future hand-washing and street-sanitizing efforts will be implemented in other cities in the region, Dr. Wilma Wooten, the region's public health officer, told the AP.
Also at LA Times. San Diego outbreak page.
Previously: San Diego Declares Emergency Due to Outbreak of Hepatitis A
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:43PM (15 children)
Socialism is the answer, but somehow I doubt you would support such things. Also, do you propose violating people's freedom to exist by forcing them into such camps? How do you prevent them from leaving and living where they please?
Honestly sounds like you haven't thought it through and simply want to remove "deplorables" from society. You should focus on improving their lives, not removing them from society. Yes a Hitler reference is quite applicable, it is a bad sign that you do not understand that.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:52PM (12 children)
"Socialism" is such an incredibly nebulous term; it means virtually nothing—the only sentiment that you can derive from it is this: You want to take other people's resources at the point of a gun.
Look at you, worrying about whether people want to leave a camp, and yet not giving a fuck about whether people want to pay for your silly "solutions". How can you not see the utter contradiction in your positions?
In my world view, there is no contradiction: You don't know what the rules of interaction are until you negotiate them, cautiously, and then you stick to the rules of that game religously.
Here. I'll start the negotiation: If you shit on my property, we're going to have a problem, and I'm going to make you wish that you didn't shit on my property.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:11PM
You are such an insightful shit lord! You're too stuck in your own narrow view to even argue properly, good luck not paying taxes. Perhaps your FB feed would be a better location to spew your circle jerk rhetoric.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:24PM (6 children)
> "Socialism" is such an incredibly nebulous term; it means virtually nothing—the only sentiment that you can derive from it is this: You want to take other people's resources at the point of a gun.
No, that's the only sentiment *you* can derive from it. Don't put *me* in your Randian basket.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:33PM (5 children)
Exactly, civilization is a veneer plastered over the human animal through millenia of trial and error. It can be lost very quickly so we should be supportive of those in need lest we lose the buffer and we let our society devolve into barbarism. Treating a group of humans differently than the rest is the first step towards barbarity.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:46PM (4 children)
Well, you've just agreed with OP, then.
You can't allow these people to do the things that most people are not allowed to do: Shit, sleep, and fuck in the streets. Society has descended into barbarity, because such barbarous activity is specially allowed by this one group of miscreants.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Spook brat on Wednesday September 13 2017, @07:51PM (3 children)
— Anatole France
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(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday September 14 2017, @04:18PM (2 children)
What an ass-backward quote. You know why the law "Don't steal" exists? It's because poor people stole stuff from less-poor people before there was such a thing as law, and people banded together to create it. Don't pretend the system is the problem. Anatole France was a literal communist, and look at how their "equality" served (and fed, and clothed, and sheltered) their people in the fucking gulags.
(Score: 2) by Spook brat on Thursday September 14 2017, @08:39PM (1 child)
It's ironic that you come to the defense of the OP, who is suggesting a gulag-like solution to homelessness, by pointing out how well gulags don't work.
Remember that the law also protects the poor from being robbed by the less-poor, or at least it's supposed to. Making homelessness a criminal offense is similar in concept to the idea of a debtor's prison, which the United States soundly rejected as an institution when we broke off from England. Laws that target activities that people would only engage in if they were homeless verge on being predatory, and are certainly discriminatory. Rich people pushing for such laws are engaging in abuse of power.
It's kind of like a joke I heard about ski slopes: young women go there looking for husbands, and husbands go there looking for young women; the situation isn't as equal as it appears at first glance.
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(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Friday September 15 2017, @12:59AM
I do think something societal needs to be addressed, as he is completely correct in that there is a difference between someone who is homeless, and someone who is temporarily without a home. Many homeless people are quite content being homeless. Free of responsibility, with churches willing to feed them whether they are drunk, high, or not (unlike those Salvation Army bastards who will give them a bed if they're sober.) It's not just lack of money. It's a psychological problem that is now physically endangering others - how is this less serious than the stress that generates school shooters if it generates even more deaths and hospitalizations? Oh, right, because this form of death isn't as easily molded to a politician's political agenda that you rapidly identify with.
Obviously gulags aren't the solution, obviously things being illegal doesn't prevent them from happening, it is simply the mindless "fuk da system"-tier rhetoric (as Communists/socialists usually spew) which I saw modded up that is causing a conflation between the compassionate and the incompetent to large swathes of people, myself included. "Everything should like, be free for everyone and there shouldn't be violence" is what it all begins to sound like. Feel the "bern" as the United States tears itself apart through taxation, and witness the rise of both Russia and China - you think the US takes advantage of people and abuses its citizens? Just you wait.
(Score: 2) by unauthorized on Wednesday September 13 2017, @08:28PM (3 children)
I can't believe people still repeat this stupid meme as if it made any sense.
Every single rule ultimately is enforced "at a gunpoint", be it by state or by your personal arsenal. Your right to bodily integrity and ownership are enforced in one way or another by the willingness of someone to use violence against anyone who wishes to infringe on these rights of yours.
Yes, there are some things that people should be forced to do and some things they shouldn't be forced to do. Unless you propose it's entirely okay to allow people to beat/rape/eat their children at their leisure, then you are just stating an opinion over which arbitrary threshold should be enforced. You cannot claim moral victory in an argument by just stating an opinion.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @09:15PM (2 children)
If 2 parties agree to enforcement in advance, then that enforcement is by definition voluntary.
That is not what government offers. Government doesn't offer agreement in advance; government mandates.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @09:19PM (1 child)
Ugh no point in trying to help this person, clueless is as clueless does. New born humans can't agree to the rules they're brought up in, your idea fails. It is infeasible to reproduce every aspect of society on a per-individual basis, your idea fails.
Get a freaking clue!
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @11:53PM
Fallacious thinkers are as fallacious thinkers do. Try again.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday September 13 2017, @08:06PM
They aren't deplorables, who I love. They are undesirables. The situation is very deplorable. While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses? Turning its finest and most luxurious shopping districts into an outdoor flea market, clogging and seriously downgrading the area? The image of San Diego will suffer. I hope you can stop this very deplorable situation before it is too late. 🇺🇸
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 14 2017, @01:41PM
Socialism is only the answer to one question: Why are you starving?