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posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday June 04 2014, @11:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the Interface-Resurrection dept.

Mary Jo Foley reports at ZDNet that according to sources who've had good track records on Windows information, Microsoft won't be delivering a new Start Menu for Windows 8 with its coming Windows 8.1 Update 2, after all. "Up until recently, Microsoft was hoping to make a new "Mini" Start Menu part of a second update to Windows 8.1," says Foley. "Windows 8.1 Update 2 was and still is, last I heard slated to arrive in August of this year." Microsoft's operating systems group has decided to hold off on delivering a Microsoft-developed Start Menu until Threshold, the next "major" release of Windows. Threshold, which may or may not ultimately be called Windows 9, is expected to be released in April 2015.

The original Windows 8 interface lacked the Start Menu, a familiar component of previous versions of the operating system, replacing it with the live tile-driven Start screen. Many users didn't like the change, and some PC manufacturers and developers offered ways to bring back versions of the old Start Menu. Microsoft appeared to relent at Build when it unveiled the revised Start Menu, enhanced with Windows Modern UI improvements.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday June 04 2014, @02:18PM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday June 04 2014, @02:18PM (#51094)

    The difference is that Windows users are yet not so beaten down by years of abuse that they have given up resistance.

    Wait, What?
    How does that make any sense?

    Do you know what happens when someone does something to a Linux distro that most of their users don't like? They fork it and start a new distro.

    Like Ubuntu up to where Unity was forced? Switch to any number of desktop environments Gnome, KED, XFCE. Or change OS altogether Fedora, Gentoo, SUSE, Linux Mint, then decide if you'd prefer it with MATE or Cinnamon. Or fork it yourself and get what you want all of these options are *free*.

    Like Windows up to where they completely screwed the pooch with Vista, then keep using XP till they don't support it and get forced to *pay* to upgrade to Windows 7 or Windows 8. Going to windows 7 only delays the inevitable of having to pay ***again*** to upgrade to another version that still forces you into something you don't want. We hear a lot of whining from Windows users, but none of them actually do anything about it, those that do actually do something about it are the ones that move to Linux.

    If anyone is "beaten down" by bad decisions it's windows users because they have the attitude of, "Waaa I don't like it!!", but then use it anyway. Where as Linux users have the, "Waaa I don't like it!!" change to something else that does what they want or start their own fork.

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  • (Score: 2) by Sir Garlon on Wednesday June 04 2014, @05:59PM

    by Sir Garlon (1264) on Wednesday June 04 2014, @05:59PM (#51258)

    You're right; you've made me re-assess the difference. I now realize that the difference between Windows users and Linux users is that when the Windows user gets screwed over by the developer changing a usable UI into an unusable one, other Windows users don't try to tell him he has no right to complain.

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    • (Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday June 04 2014, @06:47PM

      by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday June 04 2014, @06:47PM (#51291)

      I can agree with that statement.

      Window users are much more of a "There, there my fellow windower. I feel your pain, and know there's nothing we can do to fill the aching whole in our hearts. I shall suffer loudly with you my brother!! We shall be unavenged!"

      Where as Linux users are more like "STFU and fix it yourself or get a new distor!"

      Both OSes have their ups and downs, but the cultures are very different. Windows is made up of more common uses that just generally accept what is being done is in their best interest and MS being a faceless corp. has no interest in them. Sure windows users will put up a stink for awhile, but eventually we (I use windows at work) just accept there's nothing we can do about it and just use what MS says we will use.

      Linux on the other hand offers a huge variety of choice, but the constant bickering over what is *the best* distro or DE or WM can get under ones skin. They're all good, it's just a matter of what you want to do with them. And you do always have the option to switch to some other distro, DE or WM if you don't like what the devs are doing, or fork it yourself and do what you want. Not to say we (I use Ubuntu and Linux Mint at home) don't complain, but there really isn't a reason *to* complain. If Shuttleworth is forcing Unity on Ubuntu users, all they have to do is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, restart and select KED as the desktop, or just download and install Linux Mint. It's free you just have to invest a couple hours (if you don't know what you're doing) to install it.

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