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posted by takyon on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:49AM   Printer-friendly
from the proactive-data-recovery dept.

Last week, The Wall Street Journal dropped a bombshell when it reported that Russian government hackers located confidential National Security Agency material improperly stored on an employee's home computer with help from Kaspersky antivirus, which happened to be installed. On Tuesday, The New York Times and The Washington Post provided another shocker: the Russian hackers were caught in the act by spies from Israel, who were burrowed deep inside Kaspersky's corporate network around the time of the theft.

Ars Technica: How Kaspersky AV reportedly was caught helping Russian hackers steal NSA secrets

The New York Times: How Israel Caught Russian Hackers Scouring the World for U.S. Secrets

The Washington Post: Israel hacked Kaspersky, then tipped the NSA that its tools had been breached (archive)

Previously: Kaspersky Lab and Lax Contractor Blamed for Russian Acquisition of NSA Tools


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:01AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:01AM (#582159)

    Russia is our frenemy. Frequently they cause us trouble. Never mind if they are "evil" or not. A hurricane isn't evil, yet it can sure cause trouble.

    For the issue of how to deal with Russia, it really doesn't matter if "the US is somehow better than Russia" or not. It really doesn't matter if one country is more or less evil compared to the other. All it matters is that Russia can be a foe, and that this doesn't favor me.

    Yes, I'm going to fight for the home team. I damn well better. I live here. My kids live here. Our welfare is greatly impacted by the power of the USA relative to all other countries.

    That's it. That's the difference: "But we're different because THIS IS OUR HOME". Oh, perhaps there may be other reasons, but that is the one that counts.

    I'm not offended by Russians who hack us. They are fighting for their country, just as I fight for mine.

    Anybody unwilling to fight the Russians is undeserving to live in any country other than, obviously, Russia. People who don't support their country are dead weight at best.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:07AM

    by Arik (4543) on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:07AM (#582161) Journal
    "Frequently they cause us trouble."

    This part appears to be not just false, but a blatant inversion of the truth.

    "Yes, I'm going to fight for the home team."

    Gul'dan thanks you.
    --
    If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anal Pumpernickel on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:14AM (4 children)

    by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:14AM (#582233)

    I'd rather try to improve the country I live in, like by forcing the government to actually follow the highest law of the land. Right now, the US government is conducting unconstitutional democracy-destroying mass surveillance on the populace. Right now, we are fighting numerous unconstitutional (Congress did not declare them) and unjust (they are not wars of defense) wars overseas. The US government is violating people's freedoms by forbidding them from ingesting certain drugs, and it's violating the Constitution in numerous ways while doing so. Cops in the US often steal people's property and call it "asset forfeiture", in utter defiance of the Constitution. We increasingly resemble a police state as thuggish organizations like the TSA violate people's rights just so they can be allowed to board a plane, all in the name of safety. There are countless other issues impacting people's rights here, and this is all happening in the 'Give me liberty or give me death!' country. The US government is an enemy of (what is supposed to be) our constitutional form of government, and is a far greater threat to our freedoms than Russia could ever be.

    Keep in mind: You live in the US, so improving your government would also benefit you, your friends, and your family. Fighting Russia certainly is not the only way to do that, and it's definitely not sufficient and shouldn't even be the main priority.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:01PM (1 child)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:01PM (#582332) Journal

      We have the ability to work on more than one thing at a time.

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Sunday October 15 2017, @01:15AM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Sunday October 15 2017, @01:15AM (#582465)

        I'm not even sure what to do about Russia. I have a better chance of changing my own government, and there are far greater benefits for doing so.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2017, @06:38AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2017, @06:38AM (#582565)

      It sounds like your objection to those things is that they are unconstitutional. We can amend the constitution.

      28. Congress shall provide for mass surveillance upon the populace.

      29. The president may wage war upon any entity, without restriction, solely at his discretion.

      30. Drugs and their precursors, and the use or sale or manufacture thereof, may be prohibited by any branch of government of any state or of the union.

      31. The rights reserved to the people by this constitution are not so reserved anywhere within a facility which supports the operation of aircraft.

      There you go. Get those into the constitution, and your complaint is resolved.

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Monday October 16 2017, @12:57AM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Monday October 16 2017, @12:57AM (#582852)

        It sounds like your objection to those things is that they are unconstitutional.

        Wrong. They're also deeply unethical. I would be opposed to them no matter what.