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Governor Rick Scott (R) has declared a state of emergency in the county where the University of Florida lay, due to a planned speech by Richard Spencer. According to NPR:
When Hurricane Irma was bearing down on Florida last month, Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency. On Monday, he did the same thing in Alachua County, ahead of a speech by white nationalist Richard Spencer at the University of Florida in Gainesville.
"We live in a country where everyone has the right to voice their opinion, however, we have zero tolerance for violence and public safety is always our number one priority," Scott said in a statement. "This executive order is an additional step to ensure that the University of Florida and the entire community is prepared so everyone can stay safe."
"I find that the threat of a potential emergency is imminent," Scott declared in his executive order, noting that Alachua County Sheriff Sadie Darnell had requested the state's assistance. The order will make it easier for various agencies to coordinate a security plan for Thursday's speech at the university.
[...] No campus group invited Spencer to speak, and the university is not hosting or sponsoring the event. Spencer's group, the National Policy Institute, is paying the university $10,564 for facility rental and security.
And it looks like it could get expensive:
The speech and accompanying protests are also a major expense: The university as well as state and local agencies expect to spend more than $500,000 to provide additional security.
And the University of Florida can't demand that Spencer pay the full cost of protecting him, because of a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Forsyth County v. Nationalist Movement.
In that decision, the university explains, "the Court clarified that the government cannot assess a security fee on the speaker based upon the costs of controlling the reaction of potential hostile onlookers or protestors," under legal doctrine known as the "heckler's veto."
Well, that is the cost of free speech in a free country.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by VLM on Thursday October 19 2017, @01:34PM (12 children)
One big problem with the argument is if you let your enemy define you, you end up with ridiculous parodies like the above. And I assume there exist equally and opposite ridiculous parodies of antifa types made by the right.
Very little of that definition has anything to do with my beliefs or the people I listen to or read (including Spencer, for example) but it is the standard left wing definition to make them look as bad as possible.
Lets talk about Jews for example. Most of the right wants an ethnic home state for whites because the Jews have an ethnic home state so why can't we? Our culture is taken over by leftists, and they hate white people, so we clearly don't have an ethnic home of our own. Also the Jews get to blabber on about being "gods chosen people" and all that ancient superstition crap, so why isn't a little white supremacy equally tolerated? The NRX people on the far right have a particularly weird outlook on Jews, such that letting them take over culture by writing your sitcoms and news articles is an invasion that must be taken care of like any military psyop invasion, but letting Jews design your nuclear weapons is the nicest thing ever, essentially living here is fine but trying to take over and remake culture in an image of Israel is completely unacceptable, or rephrased again, Israel on the other side of the planet is literally not on my radar, but Israel on my TV is a big problem. From the point of view of the far right people, wanting to visit Israel on the other side of the planet is not the slightest problem at all, but trying to turn the USA into something like "West Israel" is a huge problem to fight against. You see this in the attacks the far right make on Jews, its always against journalist/politician despicable sex criminals, not exactly kristallnacht against the little old accountant down the street like the Germans did decades ago, the moderns have a completely different strategy and outlook and opinion. In stark comparison, the antifa as a general rule side with the Palestinians, and they're the ones who want the Jews dead. More people on the far left want to nuke Israel than on the far right, yet the propaganda is reversed, because there's a lot of Jews in the more moderate left, think of almost all of the communists from the last century, for example. For another example essentially the Democratic party is now Jews, cat ladies, handful of remaining cucks, some FDR-era-elderly, and minorities, therefore the right must by definition be "anti-Jew" which is probably correct WRT normie moderate less-political people (especially after the mostly Jewish neocon movement temporarily screwed over the Republicans until Trump uncucked the R party, mostly). Claiming the far right wants Jews dead for existing is simply ridiculous.
The claim about euthanasia combines the above, where the modern right doesn't care at all, with a different problem. Lets say an enemy of the USA invaded and took over and got to write the history books. You get one guess how the previous regime's euthanasia programs would be portrayed. Naturally, a doctor not restricting the respiratory system impairing pain killers for a terminally ill cancer patient a couple of times, is going to get rewritten in the history books as a former USA fedral government presidentially endorsed policy of bayoneting millions of crippled children. Its just how propaganda works. What do you think, they're going to be honest, LOL? That mixes with outright lying about modern views to make slander that's unrecognizable from reality.
This problem of fake names, is why libel and slander laws were seen as necessary for a functioning democracy. It would be interesting to implement those again, would probably help the level of discourse quite a bit. Of course you'd have to arrest like everyone at CNN and MSNBC and numerous newspapers... the left controls most mass media and those media outlets are mere D party propaganda departments as has been proven numerous times in email leaks and so forth. How do you have a functioning democracy in a one party totalitarian authoritarian rule, is a mystery.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @03:02PM
How do you spew such crazy shit when reality is evident for everyone to see? One party in control? You've got some of the worst republicans gutting taxes for you yet you complain? You're insane VLM, your brain is malfunctioning, you have issues, need therapy and probably medication. Seek help.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 19 2017, @04:37PM (8 children)
Hey, hey! I JUST got J-Mo off the damn cross and now YOU climb up on it? Shoo, shoo, winter's coming and we need to burn that timber! Take your delusional skull-vomit elsewhere.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:02PM (7 children)
Can I take the ranting and personal attacks as evidence I'm factually correct? Just felt like asking, LOL. Can't unswallow the red pill of course.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:49PM (6 children)
No, you can take it as evidence that you're wrong, since in this case the ranting is factually correct and the personal attacks are well-deserved. But do go on; I know how your kind works. You learn nothing until the flames of Hell burn away your dross.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:21PM (5 children)
More global warming alarmism; tired.
Have a nice day!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 20 2017, @03:35AM (4 children)
No, sweetie, it's YOUR world that'll be unbearably hot. Try reading for comprehension sometime. I know that's a crime in your culture, but do it for me?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by VLM on Friday October 20 2017, @01:13PM (3 children)
Humor is wasted on the left.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 20 2017, @04:27PM (2 children)
You aren't funny, though. I've been to funerals that were funnier than you. Free hint 'cause I'm in a generous mood: saying something sociopathic and then walking it back with "jeez, it was just a joke" doesn't work. You don't fool anyone but yourself.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2017, @05:59AM (1 child)
Sociopathic jokes are still easier on the ears than constant harpy keening.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday October 22 2017, @03:00PM
Cry some more :) Tone trolling, like false patriotism, is the last refuge of the scoundrel. But since you like my voice so much (I'm an alto, not a screeching soprano, that's my sister) I'll make sure to talk riiiiight into your ear next time!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Friday October 20 2017, @03:46PM (1 child)
...so your logic is, essentially: "Two wrongs DO make a right"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2017, @06:04AM
So you're saying that using freedom of association to create a place that turns out to be a home state for the ethnic Yahudym is a wrong?
Or are you the enlightened soul who has opened up his home and hearth to all and currently has half a dozen drifters sleeping in your living room?