Effective immediately, the new release of Ubuntu, 17.10, aka 'Artful Aardvark' has been released!
This release will be supported for 9 months (until 2018) for Long Term Support, stick with release 16.04, instead.
Official flavors (e.g. Kubuntu) are also released.
See the above release notes for a full list of changes and where you can get a copy.
[Full disclosure: the majority of SoylentNews' servers run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS though we have taken steps towards moving to Gentoo.]
The customized version of GNOME that Ubuntu 17.10 uses is very much in the mould of the (now defunct) Unity desktop, so it won't be to everyone's tastes.
Mint is fucking horrible. I am going to make it my mission to bash Mint everytime somebody here suggests it.
It is buggy as fuck, GRUB doesn't work with it, the UI is boring as fuck and surprisingly unresponsive considering its simplicity, it crashes. I have no idea why people keep recommending it and especially somebody like you who is a reasonably smart guy.
I would rather run fucking IRIX on decades-old hardware than Mint on a modern i7 machine.
...meanwhile, by at least 1 metric, [distrowatch.com] Mint is the most popular distro.There are millions who say "WFM".
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
yes, those are all the new converts who want the easiest, most polished, windows-like linux they can get. unfortunately, mint is a bit of a turd.
the UI is boring as fuck
This point is wrong and stupid, simply because there is no "Mint UI", there's 4 of them: KDE, Cinnamon, MATE, and Xcfe. If you don't like one of them, that's fine, but I'm quite sure you haven't tried all four of them and found them to be "boring as fuck".
As for crashing and GRUB and unresponsiveness, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've been running Mint KDE for years now without any such trouble. I can't speak to the other DE choices. And of course it uses GRUB (what doesn't? No one uses LILO any more; that's ancient).
What did you do, try out Mint way back in the days of Gnome2 or something, have some problems, and then continue spouting these obsolete complaints forevermore? Are you going to complain about Ford because of the Pinto too?
As for crashing and GRUB and unresponsiveness, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've been running Mint KDE for years now without any such trouble. I can't speak to the other DE choices.
I mostly use Cinnamon (which is the "default" choice), and I can vouch that it still has some problems with stability and polish. It (very, very rarely) crashes immediately after login and switches to a "fallback mode". Restarting the cinnamon process sometimes works, sometimes doesn't...
But my biggest complaint is that the tiny popup that appears when you switch to Japanese input blocks everything else, including opening the application menu. Took me weeks to figure out why the menu would seemingly randomly stop working -.- I blamed it on interface freezes, and it looked like a huge responsiveness issue. Not to mention that the popup also tends to hide the one element on the interface that I'm looking at, or floats over the text cursor itself...
Mint MATE is quite stable - if uninspiring. No issues for a decade! Before that, Knoppix was my favorite.
+1 for Knoppix back in the day :)
3 of them are, in fact, boring as fuck; and the one which isn't (KDE) is ugly as fuck with a workflow that seems cluttered and counterintuitive. Nobody should have to spend hours trying to tweek-and-eke basic functionality out of their user interface.
Nobody should have to spend hours trying to tweek-and-eke basic functionality out of their user interface.
Then don't. It's fine in its default configuration. There's nothing "cluttered and counterintuitive" about KDE. Maybe a Mac would be more to your liking.
the UI is boring as fuck
The UI should be boring. I want to be excited about the programs I run, not get distracted by UI gimmicks. The point of an UI is to support you in doing what you want to do, without taking attention away. The best UI is one that you don't really notice.
That's one reason I like i3.
Reason I don't like i3: my memory sucks for remembering some program names.