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Although drinking by U.S. adolescents has decreased during the last decade, more than 20 percent of U.S. high-school students continue to drink alcohol before the age of 14 years. This can have adverse effects on their neurodevelopment. For example, youth who initiate drinking before 14 years of age are four times more likely to develop psychosocial, psychiatric, and substance-use difficulties than those who begin drinking after turning 20 years of age. Little is known about how the age of alcohol-use onset influences brain development. This is the first study to assess the association between age of adolescent drinking onset and neurocognitive performance, taking into account pre-existing cognitive function.
AND see also: http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/acer.13503
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @11:15AM (7 children)
What I notice is lots of young people in the USA and UK regularly drink till they are drunk or past drunk... Not surprising if you get brain damage that way.
I can kind of understand noobs drinking too much for the first time and then spending the night puking into a toilet bowl and having a terrible hangover the next day. BUT they were doing it every week or even more often.
I don't see what's so enjoyable about drinking so much till you're impaired, sick and suffering on a REGULAR BASIS. Seems to me the real "brain damage" is due to something else and not the alcohol ;).
I've had whisky, wine and beer etc when I was a kid and till today I have NEVER got "passed out" drunk or hangovers the next morning. Nor do I intend to. I've seen others getting that drunk and they certainly weren't having a good time puking, nor were their friends having to clean up the puke. No thanks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @11:58AM (3 children)
good for you man. but lets not take this data-point as a personal affront, its a study and we all know that no one is average.
drinking and drugging and incompetent parenting and drifting toward peers that have equal bottle-procuring, bottle-opening and joint-rolling skills is certainly a thing, and its a thing that will truly fuck you up for good unless somehow you get pulled out of and away from these influences. i don't think that's debatable at all.
so, yeah, bingers are the worst off for sure. but that's true for gamers just the same. even 'controlled' use is a cover-up of underlying defects and of those, the ones gotten at an early age are truly the most devastating of the lot since they confine the lost souls to rationalizing their use and even push them into seeing the abuse as a kind of virtue/refuge.
same with gamers and sugar-fiends in general though. none of them seem to know that the best white powder is mineral-rich salt, and that the best drink is plain old water.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @01:04PM (2 children)
You miss the point that it's common for the average young drinker (or drinker) in the USA to be binge drinking.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/11/25/the-state-of-binge-drinking-in-the-united-states-in-seven-simple-charts/ [washingtonpost.com]
https://pathwaytohope.net/drinking-culture-killing-america/ [pathwaytohope.net]
So the damage observed in the study might actually be due to "early age of binge drinking" (or just binge drinking in general) and not actually due to "early age of drinking" as per the title.
Maybe the researchers are hoping for more $$$$$ for a follow up study to "discover" that. That's how modern science works...
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday November 05 2017, @03:57PM (1 child)
Young people drink to get drunk. They're not the type of people who have only a beer or glass of wine with dinner. Booze can be difficult to get at that age, so when you do get it, you're gonna want as much of that effect as possible -- even if you end up waking up in your own puke and the roof of your mouth feeling like sandpaper.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @04:27PM
That reminds me of the liquor store that didn't card, I used to buy Boone's Farm Pickle Tink by the case for Fiesta Island.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @05:29PM (1 child)
+1
I had every kind of drinks, I can withstand a couple. One time I almost got drunk. That is, no puking and no headache the day after. But my mood the day after was so awful. Alcohol is depression in a can. Honestly I think that getting drunk the second and nth time is an act of self hate, because sure as fuck I am not gonna repeat the experience.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday November 05 2017, @07:25PM
Hangovers aren't bad if you're in a good environment. There is always the physical discomfort but also some mania and horniness from the GABA rebound. Hangovers can make people more sociable at work on Mondays, or otherwise feel in a good mood (though not physically).
There are situations when hangovers do suck, and that is when the rest of your life sucks so badly that being hungover is like waking up from a really good dream only to find yourself disappointed by reality. Or when you wake up in the pokey after being arrested for pissing on that busy street corner.
It is fun watching my fellow drunks get stupid. Fighting, peeing on street corners, lawyers dropping their pants in the stadium parking lot after the ball game, I've seen it all. One time I tried to break up a fight between two drunk women and all I had to show for it was getting both their drinks splashed all over me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @02:17AM
What's the point of drinking just one? I don't even feel anything from just one shot/beer/glass of wine. It's not like alcoholic drinks taste great, if I just want to drink something yummy I'll have fruit juice. If I want to get high, I'll drink alcohol. I don't get hangovers though - probably because I don't mix alcohols or drink dark liquor.