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posted by NCommander on Monday June 09 2014, @10:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the unbelievable dept.

Texas Republicans have decided on a platform that includes abolishing minimum wage, cancelling climate research, banning the teaching of evolution at schools, and repealing the voting rights act, among other things, but hilariously (or depressingly) the one thing on this laundry list that people are angry about is their plan to "rehabilitate" homosexuals, a practice that many say is harmful.

BBC News has more: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27774102

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 10 2014, @03:54AM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 10 2014, @03:54AM (#53567) Journal
    "It isn't an explanation, it's a defense in an argument defined by the bigots."

    The reason it's an explanation and not an argument is that it means that no form of rehabilitation will, and I'm using quotes for this on purpose, 'cure' them.

    "Compare it to racism, nobody ever argues that being black is a choice and thus no one ever says "when did you chose to be white?""

    No, instead they pull up statistics about the incarceration rates of certain groups of people and say things I will not repeat. They can't make the choice argument and ... well, guess what, we're not segregated anymore.

    "If you go back to the 70s, even the gay rights people referred to it as a lifestyle because the bigots had not yet settled on "choosing to sin" for their central argument."

    Actually they chose it to soften the journey of coming out of the closet. Only two decades before there were people claiming that homosexuality was the root cause of child molestation. By the 70's that calmed down and now it was time for people to start coming out and telling their family. Which sounds better, "Oh it's a lifestyle" ... the same way you'd describe city-living to a country-bumpkin, or "well I was born this way" and end up taking a trip to the hospital to be 'cured'? I'll put it another way: Back in the twenties a rather large portion of the United States would have identified themselves as gay. Think about it.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 10 2014, @04:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 10 2014, @04:58PM (#53852)

    The reason it's an explanation and not an argument is that it means that no form of rehabilitation will, and I'm using quotes for this on purpose, 'cure' them.

    I feel like you are being deliberately obtuse so this is the last response I will make. The gay rights debate is much larger than the question of rehabilitation. That's only one small corner of it, but the "born this way" argument is used as a defense in all cases.

    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday June 11 2014, @03:33AM

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 11 2014, @03:33AM (#54007) Journal
      "I feel like you are being deliberately obtuse so this is the last response I will make."

      Obtuse? Consistent! Go read my first post and then my last post, I was responding directly to the rehabilitation debate! You're trying to make it sound like they're trying to stand on both sides of the fence and that is plainly not true. What is true is that for most of the issues brought up in the debate, why it happens is important. If you have an issue with that then I suggest you start getting specific.
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