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Vid.me to Shut Down on Dec 15th 2017

posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday December 05 2017, @01:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the vid-off dept.

jonathan writes:

Vid.me has announced that they are shutting down on December 15th 2017, saying that they could not find a path to sustainability.

This news should be of concern as content creators have been getting increasingly frustrated with Youtube's algorithms that demonetize their videos and this means they have one less alternative to turn towards.

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  • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Wednesday December 06 2017, @02:53PM (6 children)

    by Wootery (2341) on Wednesday December 06 2017, @02:53PM (#606146)

    Turn off ecmascript. Turn it off completely. Just for one day. Then come tell me that.

    Right. Hence 'bloated'. But it still works.

    A great many "websites" today do not serve a web page anymore. They attempt to run compiled or obfuscated scripts

    Right. Hence 'bloated'. But it still works.

    flash or java

    Java applets are long dead, and Flash is continuing its long decline. We do have EME now though. Proprietary binary blobs by any other name...

    And nearly everything that 'normal' people, non-geeks, use is not open at all at this point.

    That's not what 'open' means. What you are referring to is compliance with good old-school web-design principles like using HTML and CSS and only using JavaScript when necessary.

    that's getting broken every day too, by more and more sites

    Silos are a problem, but I don't know that it's getting worse. Blogs and news articles are always linkable, for example. Videos are generally linkable. (This is even true of Netflix, though they don't advertise it.)

    I am not aware of a single consumer ISP in this country that doesn't prohibit servers, and MASSIVELY gimp upload.

    We're talking about the web, not consumer ISPs. The web lets us have discussions and submit our own content. That's what 'read/write web' means. As you say, an Internet matter, not a web matter.

    I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but I've come to see that I was wrong.

    What is there to disagree with? Browsers are more secure than Sun Java ever was, and it really does work as a, uh, cross-platform platform.

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  • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday December 06 2017, @06:07PM (5 children)

    by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday December 06 2017, @06:07PM (#606245) Journal

    I am not aware of a single consumer ISP in this country that doesn't prohibit servers, and MASSIVELY gimp upload.

    We're talking about the web, not consumer ISPs. The web lets us have discussions and submit our own content. That's what 'read/write web' means. As you say, an Internet matter, not a web matter.

    Where are these "discussions" and this "content" stored, and over what network are they transmitted? You can't have much of a World Wide Web without the Internet, unless you're talking about an intranet within a single building.

    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Wednesday December 06 2017, @07:22PM (4 children)

      by Wootery (2341) on Wednesday December 06 2017, @07:22PM (#606305)

      stored

      Proper servers, not home machines. This isn't a big problem.

      • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday December 06 2017, @07:47PM (3 children)

        by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday December 06 2017, @07:47PM (#606333) Journal

        How do we go about convincing the non-technical general public to pay out of pocket for "Proper servers"?

        • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Wednesday December 06 2017, @10:04PM (2 children)

          by Wootery (2341) on Wednesday December 06 2017, @10:04PM (#606434)

          Pay for it with advertising, of course.

          You seem to think my ideas are pie-in-the-sky. They're not. I just want competition for YouTube.

          Vimeo offer video hosting already, but they're not in the ad-revenue-sharing business. Would be interesting if they branched out.

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:37AM (1 child)

            by Arik (4543) on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:37AM (#606523) Journal
            "Pay for it with advertising, of course."

            That's how we got into this mess.

            Who pays the piper calls the tune. Advertising is a plague and advertisers should be quarantined.
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            • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday December 07 2017, @09:27AM

              by Wootery (2341) on Thursday December 07 2017, @09:27AM (#606731)

              Advertising is the biggest reason people are able to make a living making YouTube videos. Our whole conversation has been about doing that kind of thing better than YouTube does it.

              Some people are able to go with patronage and make it work, but advertising has shown itself to be a generally more reliable way to pay the bills.