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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Wootery on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:58AM (21 children)

    by Wootery (2341) on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:58AM (#606755)

    Firefox is in the terminal stage of SJW Convergence

    How about you explain your concerns rather than just throwing around unclear buzzwords?

    You mean the Eich thing?

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by jmorris on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:40PM (17 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:40PM (#606961)

    Haven't there been enough threads about the growing dissatisfaction with Firefox's current direction? Do we really need to rehash that in a poll thread? Nah.

    And yes, Eich was a big red flag. Giving money to Antifa was another. SJW convergence is a real thing, it destroys organizations large and small, commercial, non-profit and even religious organizations. Learn to spot the warning signs.

    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Friday December 08 2017, @09:26AM (16 children)

      by Wootery (2341) on Friday December 08 2017, @09:26AM (#607139)

      I agree they probably shouldn't have thrown money at 'RiseUp' [mozilla.org], but are RiseUp really associated with antifa? It's clear they really don't like Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, [riseup.net] but I'm still not quite clear what they're really after.

      They describe themselves thus:

      Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by jmorris on Friday December 08 2017, @04:31PM (14 children)

        by jmorris (4844) on Friday December 08 2017, @04:31PM (#607255)

        Remember the three laws of SJWs:

        1. SJWs Always Lie
        2. SJWs Always Double Down
        3. SJWs Always Project

        You got caught by their obeying Law 1, lying. The "front group" was invented by Commies and religiously practiced by all on the Left because they understand normal sane humans consider their views abhorrent and would destroy them if they ever realized what was in their midst.

        Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by Antifa groups [foxnews.com] But that is the eeviil Fox so...

        A random blog [soylentnews.org] and more important, note that the anarchists themselves seem to consider it an ally. reddit /r/Anarchism thread [reddit.com] But seriously, look at their blogroll. Rogues gallery of tech anarchists. They kept the obvious openly political sites like DU and antifa.org would have been a dead giveaway so it was left off off but yea. Their two services are RiseUp Red and RiseUp Black, they aren't hiding, just throwing up a little plausible deniability.

        • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Friday December 08 2017, @04:44PM (8 children)

          by Wootery (2341) on Friday December 08 2017, @04:44PM (#607259)

          But that is the eeviil Fox so...

          Fox News is indeed untrustworthy, which is why I used a different source. There's no question they donated to RiseUp, though. My question is whether RiseUp are the villains you claim them to be.

          A random blog

          Broken link.

          But seriously, look at their blogroll

          Where? Link please. I'm after a definitive answer. You may even be right, but all you've done so far is re-state your opinion.

          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by jmorris on Friday December 08 2017, @05:27PM (7 children)

            by jmorris (4844) on Friday December 08 2017, @05:27PM (#607278)

            Ok, no idea what Soylent did to that second link. I just asked google "mozilla riseup" and worked the first page of hits. It wasn't hard to find a lot of clues that RiseUp is Antifa related.

            • (Score: 4, Touché) by idiot_king on Saturday December 09 2017, @03:01AM (1 child)

              by idiot_king (6587) on Saturday December 09 2017, @03:01AM (#607584)

              I entirely realize you troll for fun but at least put some effort into it, dude.
              You're like an old, crusty Moldbug on tranquilizers and Alzheimer's meds.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:09AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:09AM (#610941)

                Not "like". And off his meds.

            • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:29PM (4 children)

              by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:29PM (#607756) Homepage

              Wait, what is Antifa? I'm looking around at all the major news and tech sites and can't seem to find any mention of them. Did they once exist and then just magically disappear overnight, like Osama bin Laden?

              • (Score: 5, Insightful) by TheReaperD on Sunday December 10 2017, @01:38PM (3 children)

                by TheReaperD (5556) on Sunday December 10 2017, @01:38PM (#607987)

                They're a Fox "news" and Breitbart red herring for the conservative conspiracy crowd. They're supposed to be violent left-wing extremists that they feel should be listed as a terrorist organization according to these sources. Funny that they feel that an anti-Neo-Nazi group should be listed as terrorists but, not the Neo-Nazis, who are "exercising their free speech rights."

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                Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit
                • (Score: 2, Troll) by VLM on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:15AM (2 children)

                  by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:15AM (#608550)

                  not the Neo-Nazis, who are "exercising their free speech rights."

                  We the main stream Republican Party now, so the actual argument is something like describing the current ruling party as neo-nazi is kinda conceptually ridiculous. With a side dish of Trump's a civic nationalist, so its not even remotely technically correct to call him a german national socialist workers party member. From memory, he's not even German, he's American, unlike the Kenyan guy we had before.

                  Its a genealogical mistake, like calling Hillary a Khmer Rouge. Yes, they're both commies at some basic level but there's not really anything in common beyond a certain general shared worship of all that is Marxism. Or its like calling Pope Francis a Lutheran, I mean, yeah you got the "generally Christian" thing correct in common but there's, like, history between them and things and some disagreement on several important points.

                  The other argument with nazi is all good republican candidates for my entire adult life have been slandered as "nazis" so its a name without meaning anymore. Like think of famous nazi Tommy Thompson or famous nazi Ronald Reagan or famous nazi Bush (well, OK maybe that one is right) but a name thats content free doesn't mean anything any more.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:13AM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:13AM (#610942)

                    Trump harped on the Birther thing so much because it is true, of him! Trump was born in the Bahamas, no doubt for tax dodging purposes. Not a natural born American, not legally allowed to be POTUS. Lock him up!

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @02:30PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @02:30PM (#614092)

                      Hillary harped on that birther thing, because she's not a natural born American. She was poured from a vat, aboard the lizard ship, in orbit around Uranus. You've never seen that creature in a skirt or a dress, because it's so hard to keep a tail hidden under a skirt. Lock the bitch up!!

        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:05AM

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:05AM (#608548)

          Not disagreeing with your data, but I thought for sure you were going in the direction of

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Conquest#Robert_Conquest%E2%80%99s_Three_Laws_of_Politics [wikipedia.org]

          Robert Conquest’s Three Laws of Politics

          Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.

          Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.

          The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:28AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday December 17 2017, @10:28AM (#610945) Journal

          The Three "jmorris" Rules of Thumbs:

          1. Never insert your thumb into jmorris. Never.
          2. jmorris is always lying, down, doubling.
          3. Just because you are worried about "SJW convergence", Commie infiltrators, and anti-fascist groups like the US Military, that does not mean you are paranoid. No, really. jmorris has been trying to tell us. WAKE UP! Sheeple! (oh, no, ) [xkcd.com]
          4. There is no fourth Rule of Thumb for jmorris. You think we're made of thumbs here?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22 2017, @10:02PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 22 2017, @10:02PM (#613394)

          but dude

          that's what self interested single issue voters do no matter where they are on the political spectrum

          and whenever someone says SJW, i expect the social justice is actually a good thing. they arent being called evildoers.

          but the republican party often is called that, or their donors anyway. most of the rust belt aren't evil and I wouldn't lump them into the same category

          i wish you and others like you would get your head out of your ass and realize this isnt all black and white

        • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Friday December 29 2017, @06:23PM

          by meustrus (4961) on Friday December 29 2017, @06:23PM (#615588)

          I'm confused, are you anti-government or pro-government? Because "anarchist" is about as anti-regulation, anti-government as you can get. Somebody get the good old "libertarian" straw man AC in here to back me up.

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          If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @11:16AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @11:16AM (#617130)

          1. Trolls Always Lie
          2. Trolls Always Double Down
          3. Trolls Always Project

          FTFY

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 26 2017, @01:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 26 2017, @01:48AM (#614186)

        Mozilla should be spending their funds on improving the browser, not settling into high priced real estate in Taipei, nor getting milked by random political projects.

        In general, for one charity to spend money on another possibly unrelated charity, it runs the risk of losing spending authority on the PR battlefield. Case in point: Susan Komen and Planned Parenthood.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by unauthorized on Saturday December 09 2017, @11:55AM (2 children)

    by unauthorized (3776) on Saturday December 09 2017, @11:55AM (#607682)

    He means crap like this [mozilla.org].

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Wootery on Sunday December 10 2017, @10:31AM (1 child)

      by Wootery (2341) on Sunday December 10 2017, @10:31AM (#607958)

      Participation is open:

      • internationally to all women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people
      • also open in the U.S. to all Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander people

      So in the US, it's open to everyone except white cisgendered men and ethnically oriental cisgendered men, and outside the US, it's open to all women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people.

      Would it be politically incorrect to call it a 'whitelist'?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by unauthorized on Sunday December 10 2017, @12:10PM

        by unauthorized (3776) on Sunday December 10 2017, @12:10PM (#607972)

        Would it be politically incorrect to call it a 'whitelist'?

        As long as you don't prefix it with the NOT operator, then it would be problematic.