Haven't there been enough threads about the growing dissatisfaction with Firefox's current direction? Do we really need to rehash that in a poll thread? Nah.
And yes, Eich was a big red flag. Giving money to Antifa was another. SJW convergence is a real thing, it destroys organizations large and small, commercial, non-profit and even religious organizations. Learn to spot the warning signs.
I agree they probably shouldn't have thrown money at 'RiseUp' [mozilla.org], but are RiseUp really associated with antifa? It's clear they really don't like Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, [riseup.net] but I'm still not quite clear what they're really after.
They describe themselves thus:
Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications.
Remember the three laws of SJWs:
1. SJWs Always Lie2. SJWs Always Double Down3. SJWs Always Project
You got caught by their obeying Law 1, lying. The "front group" was invented by Commies and religiously practiced by all on the Left because they understand normal sane humans consider their views abhorrent and would destroy them if they ever realized what was in their midst.
Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by Antifa groups [foxnews.com] But that is the eeviil Fox so...
A random blog [soylentnews.org] and more important, note that the anarchists themselves seem to consider it an ally. reddit /r/Anarchism thread [reddit.com] But seriously, look at their blogroll. Rogues gallery of tech anarchists. They kept the obvious openly political sites like DU and antifa.org would have been a dead giveaway so it was left off off but yea. Their two services are RiseUp Red and RiseUp Black, they aren't hiding, just throwing up a little plausible deniability.
But that is the eeviil Fox so...
Fox News is indeed untrustworthy, which is why I used a different source. There's no question they donated to RiseUp, though. My question is whether RiseUp are the villains you claim them to be.
A random blog
But seriously, look at their blogroll
Where? Link please. I'm after a definitive answer. You may even be right, but all you've done so far is re-state your opinion.
Ok, no idea what Soylent did to that second link. I just asked google "mozilla riseup" and worked the first page of hits. It wasn't hard to find a lot of clues that RiseUp is Antifa related.
I entirely realize you troll for fun but at least put some effort into it, dude.You're like an old, crusty Moldbug on tranquilizers and Alzheimer's meds.
Not "like". And off his meds.
Wait, what is Antifa? I'm looking around at all the major news and tech sites and can't seem to find any mention of them. Did they once exist and then just magically disappear overnight, like Osama bin Laden?
They're a Fox "news" and Breitbart red herring for the conservative conspiracy crowd. They're supposed to be violent left-wing extremists that they feel should be listed as a terrorist organization according to these sources. Funny that they feel that an anti-Neo-Nazi group should be listed as terrorists but, not the Neo-Nazis, who are "exercising their free speech rights."
not the Neo-Nazis, who are "exercising their free speech rights."
We the main stream Republican Party now, so the actual argument is something like describing the current ruling party as neo-nazi is kinda conceptually ridiculous. With a side dish of Trump's a civic nationalist, so its not even remotely technically correct to call him a german national socialist workers party member. From memory, he's not even German, he's American, unlike the Kenyan guy we had before.
Its a genealogical mistake, like calling Hillary a Khmer Rouge. Yes, they're both commies at some basic level but there's not really anything in common beyond a certain general shared worship of all that is Marxism. Or its like calling Pope Francis a Lutheran, I mean, yeah you got the "generally Christian" thing correct in common but there's, like, history between them and things and some disagreement on several important points.
The other argument with nazi is all good republican candidates for my entire adult life have been slandered as "nazis" so its a name without meaning anymore. Like think of famous nazi Tommy Thompson or famous nazi Ronald Reagan or famous nazi Bush (well, OK maybe that one is right) but a name thats content free doesn't mean anything any more.
Trump harped on the Birther thing so much because it is true, of him! Trump was born in the Bahamas, no doubt for tax dodging purposes. Not a natural born American, not legally allowed to be POTUS. Lock him up!
Hillary harped on that birther thing, because she's not a natural born American. She was poured from a vat, aboard the lizard ship, in orbit around Uranus. You've never seen that creature in a skirt or a dress, because it's so hard to keep a tail hidden under a skirt. Lock the bitch up!!
Not disagreeing with your data, but I thought for sure you were going in the direction of
Robert Conquest’s Three Laws of Politics
Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.
Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.
The Three "jmorris" Rules of Thumbs:
1. Never insert your thumb into jmorris. Never.2. jmorris is always lying, down, doubling.3. Just because you are worried about "SJW convergence", Commie infiltrators, and anti-fascist groups like the US Military, that does not mean you are paranoid. No, really. jmorris has been trying to tell us. WAKE UP! Sheeple! (oh, no, ) [xkcd.com]4. There is no fourth Rule of Thumb for jmorris. You think we're made of thumbs here?
that's what self interested single issue voters do no matter where they are on the political spectrum
and whenever someone says SJW, i expect the social justice is actually a good thing. they arent being called evildoers.
but the republican party often is called that, or their donors anyway. most of the rust belt aren't evil and I wouldn't lump them into the same category
i wish you and others like you would get your head out of your ass and realize this isnt all black and white
I'm confused, are you anti-government or pro-government? Because "anarchist" is about as anti-regulation, anti-government as you can get. Somebody get the good old "libertarian" straw man AC in here to back me up.
1. Trolls Always Lie2. Trolls Always Double Down3. Trolls Always Project
Mozilla should be spending their funds on improving the browser, not settling into high priced real estate in Taipei, nor getting milked by random political projects.
In general, for one charity to spend money on another possibly unrelated charity, it runs the risk of losing spending authority on the PR battlefield. Case in point: Susan Komen and Planned Parenthood.