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on Wednesday December 06 2017, @04:51AM
from the blowing-a-raspberry-at-other-browsers dept.
from the blowing-a-raspberry-at-other-browsers dept.
The power user's browser Vivaldi has come to the Raspberry Pi and other Linux Arm boards.
The Chrome-based browser will run on all three generations of the Pi, as well as the CubieBoard and ASUS's Tinker Board, Vivaldi said today.
Vivaldi has supported Linux (and Mac) since it made its debut, but this is the first Arm port, a milestone on the road to a mobile version that it pledged to produce last year.
A bright spot for Opera fans.
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 06 2017, @08:27AM (5 children)
*Vivaldi fans. Vivaldi [wikipedia.org] may be the spiritual successor to Opera 12, but Opera [wikipedia.org] still exists (last release on Nov. 16) and both browsers are Blink (Webkit) based.
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(Score: 4, Informative) by ledow on Wednesday December 06 2017, @08:46AM (4 children)
And neither are anything like Opera ever was.
There is no reason you couldn't have an Opera-like browser with any rendering engine you liked.
But Opera was never about the rendering engine. It did so much more, so many years before anyone else, all in the same program.
Everything from click-to-play-plugins, advert blocking, popup management, tab management, extreme levels of customisability and theming, kiosk modes, email client, etc.... and has had all that since just after the Netscape days.
Basically Opera had the functionality of just about every modern browser and extension combination you can imagine, before either of those existed.
Now it's "just-another-browser" without any of the doodads at all. And I hate to say it, but so is Vivaldi.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Aiwendil on Wednesday December 06 2017, @10:30AM (3 children)
Take a look at Otter Browser [otter-browser.org] - they aim to mimic the O12-experience as well as possible and they are constantly looking for programmers (and are under development). It is qt5-based and if you don't mind compiling it yourself works fine on an RPi3 (binaries/appimages exists for all the common major desktop platforms - however I'd recommend compiling it yourself for linux rather than going for the appimage)
(Score: 1) by Crash on Wednesday December 06 2017, @11:49PM (2 children)
Looks better than it did a year or two ago. Still no Side|Vertical Tabs, no "Window|Tab manager" available in the sidebar,
doesn't appear to:
be easily themable,
nor allow dragging GUI icons|buttons around the interface,
nor add user-defined buttons to the GUI
nor attach mouse actions (click, long-cilck, double-click, etc) to said buttons,
...
Not worth my time, Otter isn't even comparable to Opera 6 from 2002.
(Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:22AM (1 child)
Heh, funny that..
The only theme:ing I ever did of Opera was to get it to look like earlier versions.
The sidebar I've always disabled (main reason why I like opera - less clutter).
I don't use drag and drop at all (I prefer editing files, better controil)
I prefer hotkeys (my keybindings file are far from standard)
Don't use mice for UI interactions in browser - main thing about Opera that I liked btw, excellent keyboard support.
Amazing how we could have so different things we liked about the same browser that we liked :)
(Btw, O6? You came late to the game, I started back in O3 - funnily enough I consider each UI "upgrade" since then to actually be worse, mainly due to being less clinical and more "fluffy")
(Score: 1) by Crash on Thursday December 07 2017, @09:43AM
I agree with your general sentiment there, many GUI changes following O6 were worse, although O11's "Tab Stacks" were nice.
Google helped me discover Opera 5 in 1999, but O6 seemed like an overall improvement, especially the slick png interface skinning.
Development from O10 onward (all the way to it's demise in O12) was pathetically bad, regression regression , fix, regression.
Even so nothing else compared to it, and I died a little when I had to switch to Firefox in 2013.
You eventually get used to it, and Piro's Tree Style Tabs are awesome sauce.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 06 2017, @08:30AM (3 children)
Maybe in some alternate universe. #fakenews
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 06 2017, @02:52PM (2 children)
Power users use power browsers.
Chromium is a basic browser, and from version 57, Firefox has become a basic browser as well.
For a power browser, the choice is between Palemoon and Vivaldi, with each of them lacking in some areas. Personally I have Firefox 52 ESR for some things, because neither Palemoon nor Vivaldi has what I need (Palemoon lacks Video Downloadhelper, Vivaldi lacks h.264 support on Linux).
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Wednesday December 06 2017, @04:29PM (1 child)
Chromium and Firefox are both viable options for a "Power User". I would also hazard a guess that so-called "Power Users" by and large use one of those two, if not both.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 1) by Crash on Thursday December 07 2017, @12:00AM
Desktop: Firefox Nightly (Developer Edition); Chrome Canary
Mobile: Firefox Nightly [w/ addons], Firefox Focus [fixes the mobile web clusterfuck], and Chrome Canary
(Score: 2) by richtopia on Wednesday December 06 2017, @05:06PM
I use Vivaldi for my Blink based browser. The gestures and tab handling mimic Opera well enough that I don't constantly swear at myself when something behaves unexpectedly. They also deliver innovative updates pretty regularly, and while it is closed source they seem to be maintaining a similar strategy as the original Opera team with multiple platforms supported.
I also use Otter Browser as my WebKit browser; while it is under development unfortunately WebKit struggles to keep up with Blink and Gecko.
Primarily I am using FireFox, but since 57 I've been getting more and more angry at the lack of extensions: gestures only work in tabs on a website (not empty tabs or FireFox tabs), and without Tab Mix Plus there is no way to have tabs open/close like Opera.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:54PM
"The power user's browser Vivaldi"
the mindless slave's browser
FTFY