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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:38AM   Printer-friendly
from the he-started-it dept.

Google pulls YouTube from Amazon devices, escalating spat

A rare public spat in the technology industry escalated on Tuesday when Google said it would block its video streaming application YouTube from two Amazon.com Inc devices and criticized the online retailer for not selling Google hardware.

[...] In a statement, Google said, "Amazon doesn't carry Google products like Chromecast and Google Home, doesn't make (its) Prime Video available for Google Cast users, and last month stopped selling some of (our sister company) Nest's latest products. "Given this lack of reciprocity, we are no longer supporting YouTube on Echo Show and Fire TV," Google said. "We hope we can reach an agreement to resolve these issues soon."

[...] Amazon said in a statement, "Google is setting a disappointing precedent by selectively blocking customer access to an open website." It said it hoped to resolve the issue with Google as soon as possible but customers could access YouTube through the internet - not an app - on the devices in the meantime.

Meanwhile, Amazon Prime Video has come to the Apple TV.

Also at The Verge and Variety.

Previously: Google Pulls YouTube off of the Amazon Echo Show
Google's "Manhattan" to Compete With Amazon's Echo Show


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  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:59AM (12 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:59AM (#606589) Journal

    I could have sworn that Google supported Net Neutrality. Now, here they are blocking people based on the devices they chose to spend their money on. And, I suspect that Trump and his administration will support that decision.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:08AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:08AM (#606595) Journal

    They are just removing flowers (or weeds) from the walled garden.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:10AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:10AM (#606599)

    Google is pure evil from Hell, and Michael David Crawford is Satan's loyal fluffer. [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:37PM

      by Freeman (732) on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:37PM (#606887) Journal

      You need help. Please get some.

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  • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:16AM (2 children)

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:16AM (#606602)

    It's almost as if they aren't ethical, they only care about what would make them the most money...

    ...so I wonder why they then support Net Neutrality?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:31PM (#606955)

      Because they haven't rolled out enough fiber to compete with the other ISPs yet.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:42PM (#606981)

      Hmm... as long as the Amazon devices can continue to access web sites, this isn't really violating net neutrality. Net Neutrality doesn't (shouldn't) have much to do at all with which apps can run here or there, or not. In this case, it's Google taking its YouTube app from Amazon's pretty walled garden as some sort of consequence for another issue.

      Net Neutrality will be prepped for violation when Comcast starts making noises that it might have to block YouTube traffic because Comcast keeps asserting that Google does not do enough to police copyright violations in YouTube. And on behalf of all those content producers and copyright holders, it then seeks some sort of shakedown/reparations/compromise from Google.

      What'll be interesting is if Comcast's Xfinity Mobile MVNO gets traction, and Comcast can then try to go onto users' phones and tablets and disable or remove apps it doesn't like today...

      But at this point, it's all probably just trivial tomato vs tomato differences anyways.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:38AM (#606618)

    They dropped support for net neutrality a while ago when they realized they're big enough for changes not to affect them.

  • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:26AM

    by moondrake (2658) on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:26AM (#606750)

    well, they are not being nice that is true. But then, isn't amazon doing the same?

    They do not seem to have many other options to fight back.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:30PM (#606796)

    You're close, Amazon was violating an agreement on how the YouTube application is redistributed, the same thing happened a few years ago with Windows Phones.

  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by arcz on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:12PM (2 children)

    by arcz (4501) on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:12PM (#606844) Journal

    What does this have to do with net neutrality?

    Net neutrality is about preventing ISPs from discriminating against internet traffic, not about preventing the reciever of that traffic from rejecting some of it.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:39PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:39PM (#606856) Journal

      It's about people's right to data. A person wants some data from Google, and Google denies data based on which device they are using.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by arslan on Friday December 08 2017, @12:56AM

        by arslan (3462) on Friday December 08 2017, @12:56AM (#607059)

        But the person can access the data.. with a different device - in fact on a general purpose device like a PC. There's lots of data on the net that are far less accessible..

        They're blocking access to _small_ number of channels, proprietary channels at that, to that data that's all - and only because AWS did the same to them. Its a stretch to say that act in on itself is anti net-neutrality.

        But yea, Google like any other mega-corp could careless about NN as long as it doesn't get in the way of profits.