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I spent the first two decades of my career as a social scientist studying liars and their lies. I thought I had developed a sense of what to expect from them. Then along came President Trump. His lies are both more frequent and more malicious than ordinary people’s.
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The college students in our research told an average of two lies a day, and the community members told one. (A more recent study of the lies 1,000 U. S. adults told in the previous 24 hours found that people told an average of 1.65 lies per day; the authors noted that 60 percent of the participants said they told no lies at all, while the top 5 percent of liars told nearly half of all the falsehoods in the study.) The most prolific liar among the students told an average of 6.6 lies a day. The biggest liar in the community sample told 4.3 lies in an average day.
In Trump’s first 298 days in office, however, he made 1,628 false or misleading claims or flip-flops, by The Post’s tally. That’s about six per day, far higher than the average rate in our studies. And of course, reporters have access to only a subset of Trump’s false statements — the ones he makes publicly — so unless he never stretches the truth in private, his actual rate of lying is almost certainly higher.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Friday December 08 2017, @11:59PM (3 children)
Deception is the new normal
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(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday December 09 2017, @03:24PM (2 children)
It has been since at least Martin Luther's [wikipedia.org] time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:27PM (1 child)
Yep, I'll take Islam over Protestantism any old day. Islam isn't destroying Ireland
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 20 2017, @10:32PM
Islam is gaining in Ireland. When it reaches a solid majority, the genocide begins, as it always does.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @01:33AM (1 child)
> A more recent study of the lies 1,000 U. S. adults told in the previous 24 hours found that people told an average of 1.65 lies per day; the authors noted that 60 percent of the participants said they told no lies at all, while the top 5 percent of liars told nearly half of all the falsehoods in the study.
I think I see a flaw in this study.
They should ask Trump if he lied in the past 24 hours. It'll go something like...
"I never lie. I'm the most truthful person in history. I never, you know, the fake media, is totally fake, and my electoral college victory was the greatest in history. Everyone said it couldn't be done. The fake polls, they were all for Crooked Hillary. If you remove the 3 million illegal votes, I also, the popular vote, I also won it. And my inauguration crowd, the greatest ever, but it was misreported. And I never met with any Russians. Vladimir Putin, I never even met him. He's a great guy, we're best friends, and that's a good thing, but I never met him. So, I never lie, and you're fake news."
(Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday December 09 2017, @05:27AM
You're right, I never lie. But I have met Vladimir. We had a couple of short meetings. Short but fun. Looking forward to more! He's a lot like me. He's a very rich guy but he always, always puts Russia first. And the Russian people love him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @01:38AM
It's not just quantity that matters. Quality matters too.
Trump is a bullshitter. He isn't committing perjury or making nonsense campaign promises.
Contrast with "you can keep your doctor" or denying that Fusion GPS's nonsense about Russia was illegally funded (via a law firm) by democrats. Those things are of substantial importance.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 09 2017, @01:55AM (1 child)
Oh, okay. That does indeed explain a lot.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:37PM
Yes, doesn't it imply that psychology is a science? I suppose, in a statistical sense, it is.. but as far as physical cause and effect, who knows?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Sulla on Saturday December 09 2017, @02:30AM (2 children)
Seems to me he has followed through with every campaign promise he has been able to.
But what do I know, i'm just a man who wasn't able to keep his doctor.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 4, Funny) by Aegis on Saturday December 09 2017, @06:27AM (1 child)
Have you gotten your doctor back yet?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @08:02PM
Try sending her roses, and asking her out. If you are careful, and promise you are a changed patient, you just may get your doctor back.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @02:39AM (3 children)
Get over it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:05PM (2 children)
The United States lost.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @12:28AM (1 child)
Whichever won, everyone else lost. Trump was simply the less insane choice, Hillary Clinton being the more vile individual in every way imaginable.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 17 2017, @08:53AM
Oh please.
You got what you wanted. Stop making excuses for it, man up and face reality. Stop being a snowflake that blames anyone but yourself for what's happening.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday December 09 2017, @04:52AM (1 child)
I will never tell you something I do not believe. I will never put anyone's interests ahead of yours. And, I will never, ever stop fighting for you. Sometimes, in the heat of debate, and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don’t choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. I have done that, and believe it or not I regret it. I do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain.
Folks, you know who's lying. You know. The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN). And people agree. If you look at the level of approval of, you know, general media, if you look at it from the day I started running to now, I’m so proud that I’ve been able to convince people how fake it is, because it has taken a nosedive.
And the Washington Post, here's another beauty. This is owned as a toy by Jeff Bezos who controls Amazon. Amazon is getting away with murder tax-wise. He's using the Washington Post for power so that the politicians in Washington don't tax Amazon like they should be taxed. Jeff is worth $100 billion. If we had a tax on LYING he couldn't ever pay it. We'd LOCK HIM UP. Or the guy would be homeless, he'd be on the streets. Selling baloney on the street.
He's worried about me. He thinks I would go after him for antitrust because he's got a huge antitrust problem. Amazon is controlling so much of what they're doing. What he's got is a monopoly and he wants to make sure I don't get in.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 09 2017, @07:47PM
You are disturbingly realistic, and truthful about CNN lately. Can you do Nixon? How 'bout Kennedy (Mayor Quimby)?
(Score: -1) by Goddess Savitri Devi on Sunday December 10 2017, @03:46AM
He will bring us our Vishnu-ordained thousand year reich!
You must be some filthy jew who is trying to poison the well here as well as everywhere else.
You will be dealt with harshly when the time comes, scum!
Shiva shall rain death upon non-Aryan scum
(Score: 3, Informative) by Bot on Sunday December 10 2017, @08:27PM (2 children)
north/center europeans and their expatriates to the USA are pretty shit at lying. Slavs run circles around them and mediterraneans run circles around them while juggling.
If the social science guy isn't a liar itself, I urge him to study mr. "no I was not affiliated to P2 lodge, I never paid the fee" Berlusconi. Or his spiritual heir, Renzi.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @09:22PM (1 child)
Berlusconi, will make a comeback, again [theguardian.com]. He definitely is classier than Trump. That's what the Americans sorely lack, class. They have none, not since Nancy...
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:44AM
> Berlusconi more class than Trump.
I don't know, did Trump ever go on record saying anybody voting for the opposition was an asshole? ("coglione" is more like retard but asshole comes closer in terms of elegance)
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