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posted by janrinok on Wednesday December 27 2017, @07:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the little-green-men dept.

The existence of UFOs had been "proved beyond reasonable doubt," according the head of the secret Pentagon program that analyzed the mysterious aircrafts.

In an interview with British broadsheet The Telegraph published on Saturday, Luis Elizondo told the newspaper of the sightings, "In my opinion, if this was a court of law, we have reached the point of 'beyond reasonable doubt.'"

"I hate to use the term UFO but that's what we're looking at," he added. "I think it's pretty clear this is not us, and it's not anyone else, so no one has to ask questions where they're from."

Since 2007, Elizondo led the government program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, investigating evidence of UFOs and alien life. It was shuttered in 2012.

Its existence was first reported by The New York Times last week.

Elizondo was not able to discuss specifics of the program, but told The Telegraph that there had been "lots" of UFO sightings and witnesses interviewed during the program's five years.

Investigators pinpointed geographical "hot spots" that were sometimes near nuclear facilities and power plants and observed trends among the aircrafts including lack of flight surfaces on the objects and extreme manoeuvrability, Elizondo told The Telegraph.

Previously: Pentagon's UFO Investigation Program Revealed


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Bot on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:46AM (6 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @10:46AM (#614681) Journal

    People have already had the "Aliens are real, folks" by some ex KGB in the nineties and no civil wars erupted (why should they).

    But there are problems.
    UFO sightings badly correlate with the amount of personal recording devices available to people. But that can be rationalized, however I don't get the obsession with nuclear facilities and power plants either.

    But most of all, the most solid hint of their lack of existence is that they did not run for president, last time. Rather than HRC and Trump, most people would have voted Ridley Scott's Alien, with no hesitation. Are they really much worse than that?

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by fyngyrz on Wednesday December 27 2017, @11:10AM (3 children)

    by fyngyrz (6567) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @11:10AM (#614684) Journal

    Rather than HRC and Trump, most people would have voted Ridley Scott's Alien

    As far as I'm concerned, Trump is Ridley Scott's alien. :/

    Clinton might be best likened to Carter J. Burke from the move Aliens. Awful, but at least their spit won't eat through the floor.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @01:40PM (#614731)

      Clinton might be best likened to Carter J. Burke from the move Aliens. Awful, but at least their spit won't eat through the floor.

      Clearly you're not the poor sap who has to repair or replace her spittoons on a regular basis.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:51PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:51PM (#614803)

      Trump is a perfect organism?

      • (Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Wednesday December 27 2017, @09:26PM

        by fyngyrz (6567) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @09:26PM (#614876) Journal

        Trump is a perfect organism?

        Yes, in much the same way that other alligators are (except this is the alpha alligator we're talking about, so he's just that little bit worse than they are.)

        Alligators. You know, those things in the swamp. They don't change much (for about the last 8 million years, actually) because there's been no evolutionary pressure powerful enough to defeat their natural ability to put down everything living that comes into their range.

        People could actually do it, but you know, no one with any sense really wants to go into the swamp. Full of alligators, y'see. They'll kill your children while smiling. They smile all the time. It's built-in. So are the teeth. And the appetite. And the bad temper. And no, it's not because they don't brush their teeth. It's because... yes... they're very much like Ridley Scott's alien. And Trump. And most congress-critters. Why should they change? People have been re-electing them, so... yep, no need to change. They're perfect!

        So, a little bit about perfection:

        A perfect fusion weapon is one that delivers the design yield precisely on target. The target might be near you. Perfection is not always something you would ask for. A fizzle might be just the thing to make you grateful. Especially when the weapon in question is being wielded by people with absolutely no qualms about blowing you, and/or your children, up. And it's not too far off to think of some of Trump and Trump's minion's actions as broadly destructive weapons. Such as where they take away healthcare from kids. And adults. Or try to see to it that people in general can't get Amtrack service. Or small airport service. Or when they decide to allow more pollution into everyone's air and water. You know. Trumping Trampling all over some of the really good things with their nasty little alligator feet. It's not going too far to say "Trump is da bomb." In the "oh no, death and destruction, it's a bomb" sense of the phrase.

        Oh well. The next significant election is only a year away. Looks like (some polls make me think this) quite a few of those who voted for Trump and the Republicans have changed their minds in the face of his and their actual performance; perhaps that'll be reflected further in the makeup of congress. And in 3 years... well, we'll see.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by meustrus on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:14PM (1 child)

    by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday December 27 2017, @05:14PM (#614792)

    You think they don't know we have recording devices? For all we know there have been UFOs for thousands of years or more, and they've become less frequent because of the likelihood of producing evidence of their own existence.

    As for the focus on nuclear facilities and power plants, isn't it obvious? These are where we amass enough useful energy to reach the stars, before we squander it on war and indoor lighting. About the only thing I find surprising is that they aren't also focused on particle accelerators.

    Of course, the concentration of energy in these facilities is also capable of destroying life as we know it, so maybe the UFOs are actually time travelers preventing the apocalypse. If that's true then we should have more sightings as the orange one brings us once again close to our own annihilation. Not that the shadow state is likely to let that happen either.

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday December 29 2017, @10:58AM

      by Bot (3902) on Friday December 29 2017, @10:58AM (#615497) Journal

      > You think they don't know we have recording devices? For all we know there have been UFOs for thousands of years or more, and they've become less frequent because of the likelihood of producing evidence of their own existence.

      akin to the national geographic filmmakers that try not to disturb the colonies of animals they are examining?

      Do your thing, ants!

      It's a possibility, in fact it logically defeats fermi's paradox which needs the strong implication: they are around, therefore they are detected.

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