Donald Trump has spent 81 days on the golf course in his first year as President, racing past his predecessors.
Mr Trump, after a weekend at his Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, has spent more time on the green than George W Bush did during eight years in office.
The President has also been on the golf course almost three times as much as Barack Obama did during his first year.
The American public spent at least $43 million in order to support President Donald Trump‘s considerable golf habit in 2017.
The American Public Reportedly Spent $43 Million Last Year So Trump Could Play Golf
Donald Trump plays golf almost three times as much as Barack Obama after one year in office
(Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Tuesday January 02 2018, @07:12PM
And he spends an inordinate amount of time posting on SoylentNews. Back to work!
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @08:47PM (27 children)
Can we assume you'd prefer him to be spending more time writing presidential orders, tweeting messages to North Korea, firing liberal employees, and signing laws?
That said, golf is:
1. something done with foreign leaders (part of Trump's job)
2. merely a visit to his second home, which just happens to be situated on a golf course that Trump owns and can thus play for free
I really think you'd be happier if you embraced American values. It takes a lot of energy to hate America. This negativity is hurting you.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 02 2018, @09:13PM (18 children)
Or, he could use that time to read the Constitution. It'd probably help him do his job.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:01PM (4 children)
Can't really fault him for something Obama the "constitutional lawyer" didn't do either, although I suppose it might just be that Obama didn't care.
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 02 2018, @11:33PM (3 children)
Bit early in the thread to be playing the "what about" card...
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @12:30AM (2 children)
I guess instead I should have asked you why you only care about the constitution when a republican is treading on it. The problem is that any executive has the power to trample the constitution. I want to see presidential powers reduced regardless of who is in power, instead of because my person isn't and then reverse it when he is.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @04:48AM (1 child)
Somebody ultimately gets power.
Temporarily, one can have a weak and ineffective situation that is prone to disaster. What comes to mind is the Roman triumvirate, and also the pre-Hitler situation in Germany with both a president and a chancellor. Those didn't end well.
To function well, somebody needs to be able to make shit happen. You can't have parliamentary debate while ICBMs are incoming.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:18AM
My intention is not to advocate a legislature without an executive as I think the native checks and balances put forth in the constitution will work just fine. What I would like is a return to a system that actually has balance between the branches. The legislature seems content with polarizing issues that keep the two party system going and money flowing into their pockets, they seem to be fine with giving up power to the executive because it means they take less blame than if they had responsibility. During the pax romana there were a few emperors who tried to push power back to the senate (to some extent) to lessen the things the emperor had to deal with, these few emperors were resisted on all attempts. Examples are Tiberius and Claudius that tried to get them to handle appointments and some provence management but the senate was not interested. Our legislatures want the perks of power but not the responsibilities, and when both parties have the same general funders (military, pharma, banks) and mostly the same policies there are no issues with a stronger executive.
The executive making tough decisions in a time of crisis is not the issue, the executive making broad proclaimations with lasting effects are another.
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(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:30PM (12 children)
Read it yourself. Golf is not listed as an impeachable offense. Also BTW, impeachment does not cause Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders to become president.
Trump is a wonderful president, and I'd say this even without the bonus of his personal style making SJWs scream in horror. So far I like him better than everybody else in the previous 100 years. There is still time for fuckups, which could easily drop him a bit, but it is unlikely he would do worse than any post-Reagan president.
If you hate Trump, it really says something about you. You might be in a liberal news bubble. You might care more about style than substance, and have "polite formality" be your preferred style. You might hate Americans, American values, westerners, western civilization, men, non-muslims, whites, free speech, rural people, families, gun owners, factory workers, business owners, people who prefer English, or Christians. (NOTE: you can hate any of those even if you are the one you hate; self-hate is common with liberals)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:51PM (3 children)
You might hate Americans, American values, westerners, western civilization, men, non-muslims, whites, free speech, rural people, families, gun owners, factory workers, business owners, people who prefer English, or Christians.
Nope. I just prefer reality-based policy positions.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @12:00AM (2 children)
Trump has accepted the reality of Jerusalem being Israel's capital.
Trump has accepted the reality that our terrorists tend to have arrived via the "diversity lottery" or "chain migration", or were born to parents who arrived that way.
Trump knows the reality of regulation is that it strangles business; slashing regulations has made a major impact.
Trump knows that in reality the Paris accords were giving a huge economic advantage to the rest of the world while doing very little for the environment.
...
I could go on, but this gets silly and repetitive. Meanwhile...
Reality does not support the liberal viewpoint. That takes us toward socialism and ultimately communism. This killed over 100 million people in the previous century. Every time, we're told that things will be different and we'll get a worker's paradise. It's time to accept reality: that shit doesn't ever work.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:45PM (1 child)
Trump has accepted the reality of Jerusalem being Israel's capital.
Resulting in riots and several deaths. I'm sure that's going to lead to peace. [thesun.co.uk]
Trump has accepted the reality that our terrorists tend to have arrived via the "diversity lottery" or "chain migration", or were born to parents who arrived that way.
Nope. Most terrorist attacks committed in the last 10 years were by domestic right-wingers. [independent.co.uk]
Trump knows the reality of regulation is that it strangles business; slashing regulations has made a major impact.
Economic growth was greater under Obama that it has been under Trump. [americanprogress.org]
Trump knows that in reality the Paris accords were giving a huge economic advantage to the rest of the world while doing very little for the environment.
Completely toothless yet resulting in huge economic disadvantages, nice doublethink.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 04 2018, @02:01AM
Non-acceptance of Jerusalem's status is one of many factors blocking peace. Palestinians who are uninterested in peace may lash out; this is temporary. Oh... not that peace is a requirement when dealing with a horrible culture. Accepting reality does not necessarily mean that there will be peace or that peace is even a goal.
Domestic right-wingers essentially don't commit terrorism. You're counting random murders. Your article even admits that Muslims alone, not even including the left-wingers, have killed the most people.
Obama had 8 years. A president damn well ought to do more in 8 years than in 1 year. Economic growth took off the day after Trump got elected, which unjustly helps Obama look good. Obama said 3% growth was fantasy, but now that we're at 4% he wants to claim credit for what he said was impossible. We currently have the lowest level of Hispanic unemployment in the history of our nation, and the lowest level of black unemployment in 20 years. Accept reality: Trump's policy is superior to Obama's policy.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:58PM (1 child)
I've despised pretty much every president and politician we've ever had. And yes, that includes Obama and Trump. I guess that says something about me, which is that I hate authoritarians. I despise people who support the war on drugs, support unjust wars, support mass surveillance, support things such as the TSA, and so on. Trump has outright said he's in favor of some of those things, or he's silently continuing those practices from previous presidents. Since freedom should be a top priority in a country that claims to be 'the land of the free and the home of the brave', why do you not also hate Trump? You might be a partisan hack.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @01:08AM
Out of points to mod you insightful
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:53PM (5 children)
Golf is not listed as an impeachable offense.
Directing taxpayer money into your own business is, though.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @08:49PM (4 children)
I'm willing to make a deal if it means Trump, Hillary, Bill, and Cheney all go to prison on the same day with the same sentence. Unless you are willing to admit the corruption in your own party you need to stop throwing rocks. What is killing America isn't the politicians, it is the fools who are playing into the hands of party politics.
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 03 2018, @11:45PM (3 children)
What about the fact that only Trump and Cheney have directed taxpayer funds into their own businesses?
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @11:54PM (2 children)
Maybe you should contact Mueller, apparently you have evidence that he does not
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday January 04 2018, @12:01AM (1 child)
Maybe you should contact Mueller, apparently you have evidence that he does not.
Pretty sure he can read the first article I linked as well as you can.
US taxpayers spent $43 million at properties with his freaking name on them!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 04 2018, @02:04AM
We are still spending money to rent a dumpy barn at the Clinton residence. (the one she burned today)
The same goes for the Bushes and Obama. Only Carter has opted out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 02 2018, @09:53PM (6 children)
Help me to understand how Trump golf is different from Obama golf.
I'm not a golf player, so I admit I'm out of my depth here.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:48PM
Help me to understand how Trump golf is different from Obama golf.
One is three times greater than the other.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:53PM (3 children)
One is left handed and one is right handed
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @03:36AM (2 children)
Hmmm. I didn't realize there were that many of those.
between 10 and 15 percent of the global population identifies as being left-handed [cbsnews.com]
Left Handed Presidents of the United States [anythinglefthanded.co.uk]
George H W Bush
Bill Clinton
Barack Obama
Herbert Hoover - disputed
James Garfield - ambidextrous
Harry Truman - ambidextrous
Gerald Ford - ambidextrous
Ronald Reagan - ambidextrous
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:21AM (1 child)
I guess Truman had to be good at something
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 03 2018, @06:44AM
Hey, he was good at having bombs dropped on children.
He was good at threatening to replace striking workers with military people.
(Those damned courts always getting in the way.)
3 of those ambidextrous guys were the result of teachers forcing lefties to write with their unnatural hand.
Garfield was said to have been able to write Greek with his left hand and Latin with his right at the same time.
That's a different kind of brain than I have.
Didn't keep him from getting shot dead though.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by John Miller on Wednesday January 03 2018, @11:40PM
President Obama, by his own account, has a handicap of 13. President Trump has a handicap of 2.8. I think that's a very clear distinction.
When President Trump plays golf, he isn't only maintaining his enviable ability in the sport, and his excellent health. It's not a vacation. He's developing deeper and better relationships with members of Congress. Those relationships have helped pushed forward the President’s agenda. For example, the President recently signed historic tax legislation. The success of that came from the strong relationships that the President has. And he’s played golf with a number of senators, and used that time certainly to accomplish that.
I think we’ve had an extremely successful 2017. Some of that’s due to the relationship building that he was able to do there. I think it’s the press that has an issue with his time on the course.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 04 2018, @03:16PM
IMO, Trump plays three times as much as O'bummer, because it takes Trump that long to get a score equal to the nappy headed fellow. Obama gets a score of 180, Trump has to play three games to get that many points!!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 02 2018, @09:37PM (1 child)
Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter [twitter.com][SIC] -- Donald J Trump, 2014
(Score: 2, Touché) by Sulla on Tuesday January 02 2018, @10:15PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events/October_2014 [wikipedia.org]
For the events that we had our hands in from that time period we have the Taliban, Syrian civil war, Isis, Ebola, N/S Korea gunfire exchange, Pacific Typhoon, Yemen, 5.8 unemployment rate
Nothing much going on with the Taliban right now
Syrian civil war is pretty much over (thanks to Trump stopping support of the rebels)
Isis is 90% destroyed, Ebola is not a big issue currently (I guess the plague is currently having a resurgence)
N/S Korea have not exchanged fire recently and there is currently a lull (until Trump tweets or Kim tests another bomb)
No major natural disasters at this moment
Yemen situation no different
4.1 unemployment rate
Additional problems Trump is facing are
Israel being Israel
Personally I liked it when Obama (or i guess any politician) goes golfing because it means they are not ruining my life/freedom. I kind of figured you would see 43 million as a small price to pay to have Trump out of office.
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