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posted by mrpg on Tuesday January 09 2018, @03:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the :-( dept.

A classified satellite launched by SpaceX on Sunday may be experiencing a classified failure:

Later on Monday afternoon another space reporter, Peter B. de Selding, reported on Twitter that he too had been hearing about problems with the satellite. "Zuma satellite from @northropgrumman may be dead in orbit after separation from @SpaceX Falcon 9, sources say," de Selding tweeted. "Info blackout renders any conclusion - launcher issue? Satellite-only issue? — impossible to draw."

Update: SpaceX said the Falcon 9 rocket performed nominally, but unnamed sources reportedly told the Wall Street Journal that the payload did not separate from the Falcon 9 second stage and that both fell into the ocean:

An expensive, highly classified U.S. spy satellite is presumed to be a total loss after it failed to reach orbit atop a Space Exploration Technologies Corp. rocket on Sunday, according to industry and government officials. Lawmakers and congressional staffers from the Senate and the House have been briefed about the botched mission, some of the officials said. The secret payload—code-named Zuma and launched from Florida on board a Falcon 9 rocket—is believed to have plummeted back into the atmosphere, they said, because it didn't separate as planned from the upper part of the rocket.

The WSJ report has been disputed. Space-Track has catalogued the Zuma payload as USA 280, international designation 2018-001A, catalog number 43098, but that doesn't necessarily mean Zuma survived. CelesTrak lists the status as operational (search 43098 in NORAD Catalog Number field).

If the mission did fail, SpaceX could also blame Northrup Grumman for using their own payload adapter.

Also at CBS News, SpaceFlight Insider, Bloomberg, Popular Mechanics, CNBC, and USA Today.


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  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday January 09 2018, @05:18PM (5 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @05:18PM (#620091) Journal

    Could you launch a satellite without anyone knowing? Like from Area 51? Just wondering if the US or China could do something like that without it being known.

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  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Tuesday January 09 2018, @05:55PM (3 children)

    by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @05:55PM (#620118)

    Unlikely, but not necessarily impossible. Rockets are loud and bright, and launches tend to show up on seismic sensors.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:23PM (#620163)
      And nuclear armed countries tend to tell each other when they're launching a rocket just to avoid any embarrassing city-vaporizing mistakes.
    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:27PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday January 09 2018, @07:27PM (#620165)

      The whole argument about nuclear war with Kim is a cover-up so that the US can test nuclear weapons, and launch spy satellites, without domestic consequences.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday January 10 2018, @03:07PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 10 2018, @03:07PM (#620480) Journal

        so that the US can test nuclear weapons, and launch spy satellites, without domestic consequences./quote. The US can already launch spy satellites without domestic consequence. Or consequence of any sort, really. And doesn't look like the US is testing nuclear weapons any time soon.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 10 2018, @09:07AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 10 2018, @09:07AM (#620396)

    Can you launch a rocket without anyone noticing? No. And if you can, that rocket will not be used to launch satellites, it will be sitting in a nuclear silo somewhere. Once you start using it, you give the enemy every chance of learning to detect it.

    Can you launch a satellite without anyone noticing? Yes. Just launch it on the same rocket as another bigger satellite. Then pick the optimal time to have the the two satellites separate, long after the launch, so nobody is expecting anything (it's always harder to hide things from people who are actively trying to find something).