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Mark Guzdial at ACM (Association of Computing Machinery) writes:
I have three reasons for thinking that learning CS is different than learning other STEM disciplines.
- Our infrastructure for teaching CS is younger, smaller, and weaker;
- We don't realize how hard learning to program is;
- CS is so valuable that it changes the affective components of learning.
The author makes compelling arguments to support the claims, ending with:
We are increasingly finding that the emotional component of learning computing (e.g., motivation, feeling of belonging, self-efficacy) is among the most critical variables. When you put more and more students in a high-pressure, competitive setting, and some of whom feel "like" the teacher and some don't, you get emotional complexity that is unlike any other STEM discipline. Not mathematics, any of the sciences, or any of the engineering disciplines are facing growing numbers of majors and non-majors at the same time. That makes learning CS different and harder.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 10 2018, @09:53PM (6 children)
You should also mention software developers who use the term "Engineers".
First, Engineers get certified in their skill.
Second, the piles of crap that most developers write is not worthy of the term.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 1) by Crash on Wednesday January 10 2018, @09:58PM (3 children)
Sounds like the typical Slashdot mantra that disparages all web-developers.
Color me surprised when I visited Hacker News to see there were actual professionals that could discuss the web on a professional level.
(Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday January 11 2018, @01:25PM (1 child)
No, DannyB was quite clear: the piles of crap that most developers write is not worthy of the term. Quite right too.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 11 2018, @08:16PM
That sentence also included but was not limited to web developers.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday January 11 2018, @04:04PM
Parent never said anything about webdevs. Is somebody a bit insecure in their profession?
Not all web developers, just the ones who design shit interfaces. And bloat stuff up. But obviously that applies to desktop things like Microsoft Office as well.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 10 2018, @10:00PM
Some "engineers" need a dictionary, not certification!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11 2018, @04:10AM
Does driving a train really take that much skill? Isn't driving a car more difficult? I guess if you still had to watch pressure valves and keep the fires fed properly, but are such old trains still used?
There are tons of software certifications, but I agree with your dung heaps.