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At the Consumer Electronics Show, AMD confirmed details about products coming out in 2018:
- Ryzen 3 Mobile APUs: January 9th
- Ryzen Desktop APUs: February 12th
- Second Generation Ryzen Desktop Processors: April.
- Ryzen Pro Mobile APUs: Q2 2018
- Second Generation Threadripper Processors: 2H 2018
- Second Generation Ryzen Pro Desktop Processors: 2H 2018
The second generation "Zen+" products use a "12nm" process. Zen 2 and Zen 3 will use a "7nm" and "7nm+" process and will be out around 2019-2020.
Two cheaper Ryzen-based mobile APUs have been released. The Ryzen 3 2300U has 4 cores, 4 threads, and the Ryzen 3 2200U has 2 cores, 4 threads, making it the first dual-core part in the entire Ryzen product line. All of the Ryzen mobile parts have a 15 W TDP so far.
AMD has also lowered the suggested pricing for many of its Ryzen CPUs. For example, $299 for Ryzen 7 1700 from $329. The Threadripper Ryzen TR 1900X is down to $449 from $549.
Intel has officially launched five new Kaby Lake CPUs with AMD Radeon Vega graphics and 4 GB of High Bandwidth Memory. Each CPU also includes Intel's HD 630 GT2 integrated graphics, which is expected to be used for lower power video encode/decode tasks.
Previously: AMD Launches First Two Ryzen Mobile APUs With Vega Graphics
Intel Core i7-8809G with Radeon Graphics and High Bandwidth Memory: Details Leaked
(Score: 3, Informative) by richtopia on Friday January 12 2018, @12:21AM (3 children)
I don't think SN has covered the announcement of the desktop APUs coming in Febuary (12th I think). They are on the AM4 socket, and from the Anandtech article:
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday January 12 2018, @02:55AM
Ryzen 3 2200G could be quite the value.
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(Score: 1) by bobthecimmerian on Friday January 12 2018, @12:05PM
I don't game much these days, I'm turning into a boring old codger. So I'd like to see a hexa-core or octo-core APU with the same integrated graphics. That would give me the performance at or around a Ryzen 7 and more than adequate graphics power at a lower price, more convenient package, and lower total power draw than a real Ryzen 7 and a $80 discrete GPU.
(Score: 2) by AnonTechie on Friday January 12 2018, @09:31AM (5 children)
I would like to know whether these chips would be susceptible to Meltdown and Spectre ??
Albert Einstein - "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bobthecimmerian on Friday January 12 2018, @12:02PM (3 children)
My understanding is that Meltdown is Intel-specific but Spectre is not. https://meltdownattack.com/ [meltdownattack.com] "At the moment, it is unclear whether AMD processors are also affected by Meltdown." https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution [amd.com] "(Rogue Data Cache Load or Meltdown) is not applicable to AMD processors."
But it's possible AMD representatives are lying, or are simply mistaken, or I suppose even that a slightly modified version of the Meltdown attack would work.
That said... if AMD processors are actually not vulnerable to this attack, it would mean that some portion of Intel's performance edge over the AMD Zen products came through cutting corners on security (intentionally or not).
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Friday January 12 2018, @12:27PM (2 children)
It's pretty clear that AMD is not affected by Meltdown.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @09:45PM (1 child)
Looking at (used and new) laptops, I am always confused by AMD's chip naming. With Intel its simple: Duo, Centrino, i3, i5, i7. Guess I must try wikipedia for a list of AMD chips, print it out and haul it along when I go shopping. :( None of the "gaming laptops" in my market are AMD, all Intel i7.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday January 12 2018, @09:51PM
AMD is basically copying Intel's naming scheme, and there are a grand total of 4 Ryzen mobile chips, much less than previous launches as far as I can recall:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12233/amd-tech-day-at-ces-2018-roadmap-revealed-with-ryzen-apus-zen-on-12nm-vega-on-7nm/2 [anandtech.com]
Ryzen 7 2700U
Ryzen 5 2500U
Ryzen 3 2300U
Ryzen 3 2200U
Not very different from i3, i5, i7. And that's every single 14nm Ryzen mobile chip right there.
Getting anything older than that means going back to 28nm Bulldozer/Excavator crap with much worse instructions per clock. So if you don't do that... you have a whopping 4 laptop CPUs to remember (at least for the moment).
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(Score: 3, Touché) by Dr Spin on Friday January 12 2018, @12:42PM
Intel patented the technology needed for Meltdown - so AMD were unable to copy it!
Yes, they did know it was a security risk, but "faster".
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