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posted by martyb on Friday January 12 2018, @01:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the pay-no-attention-to-the-TLA-behind-the-curtain dept.

The House of Representatives passed legislation Thursday that would extend a controversial government spying power known as "Section 702" for another six years—without new privacy safeguards that had been sought by civil liberties groups.

Debate over the legislation now shifts over to the Senate, where it faces a filibuster threat from both Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

"If this Section 702 bill comes to the Senate, I will filibuster it," Wyden wrote in a tweet shortly after the House bill passed.

Wyden opposes the legislation because he believes that it offers too few protections for Americans' privacy rights. The powers granted by Section 702 are only supposed to be used against foreigners on foreign soil. But an American's communications can get swept up in the NSA's surveillance dragnet if they communicate with people overseas. Privacy advocates have championed an amendment to impose new privacy safeguards on the use of Section 702. But it was voted down by the House on Thursday.

[...] There isn't much time for the Senate to act. Section 702 expires on January 19, a little more than a week away.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/as-house-passes-surveillance-bill-wyden-and-paul-vow-filibuster/


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @03:55PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @03:55PM (#621408)

    I have no faith in the Democrats here. It got to the Senate because 55 house Democrats voted along with the GOP to extend this blatantly unconstitutional provision.

    Perhaps they'll surprise me, but realistically, they let the GOP get their budget extension without getting anything for it, so I'm not sure why they would have more spine about this.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @04:53PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @04:53PM (#621442)

    Yes I also blame the Democrats for failing to prevent Republicans doing evil shit. Gonna vote R next time.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @08:49PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @08:49PM (#621557)

      Ah, I see. You're going to keep voting R and D and just hope that shit magically fixes itself.

      Maybe the original alt-right was right. Democracy can't work. Fortunately, by continuing to vote D and R, you're voting in a new aristocracy.

      I hope you like what your stupidity buys you.

      • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday January 12 2018, @10:33PM

        by cmdrklarg (5048) on Friday January 12 2018, @10:33PM (#621584)

        I believe that he was being sarcastic. Poe's Law and all.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday January 12 2018, @05:11PM (5 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 12 2018, @05:11PM (#621450) Journal

    The establishment will always make sure that legislation that helps the establishment will go through. Republicans and Democrats are the same when it comes to defending the status quo in DC, where they differ is what they claim to support to divide the masses.

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    "This fig came from a mere three days away by ship" - Cato the Elder
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday January 12 2018, @06:29PM (4 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday January 12 2018, @06:29PM (#621477) Journal

      Republicans and Democrats are the same...

      80% of the Republicans voted for this bill. 34% of Democrats voted for this bill. [house.gov]

      80 != 34

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @07:36PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @07:36PM (#621503)

        where they differ is what they claim to support to divide the masses.

        Yes, this is an issue where Democrats claim to support privacy, so most of them get to vote against a spy bill and look good for their voters without actually changing anything. But enough voted for it to cover for the Republican "defectors" -- do you think this is an accident?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @08:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @08:27PM (#621540)

          Yeah, it sure seems the population average for evil / good people is flipped in politics. Instead of 90% decent people they are 10% decent and 90% corrupt game players.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @09:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12 2018, @09:20PM (#621566)

        Meh. If the same bill came up under Obama the ratio would be flipped. Right now (and recently) there's big partisan shows/bias/however you want to look at it.

        Want proof? Look at the voting records of various similar bills that did come up then...

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by crafoo on Saturday January 13 2018, @05:50AM

        by crafoo (6639) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 13 2018, @05:50AM (#621705)

        Don't be so easily fooled. Democrats didn't have to vote for this bill, _this time_, for it to pass. They certainly have in the past though. Keep in mind that Obama granted the telecoms retroactive immunity for the federal crimes they committed. They all jumped the gun on the dragnet surveillance of the public before it was technically legal. Almost right after getting elected. After promising he wouldn't. Hillary was a no-vote on the topic in her last senate vote (i.e. a coward). Deep State gonna deep state. It's what they do.