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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @03:49PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @03:49PM (#621824)

    I especially enjoyed how the CS program was entirely theoretical and programming language design was taught in pseudocode with the occasional snippet of Pascal. My university didn't even use C which I needed to learn on my own.

    It's completely irrelevant since there are absolutely no jobs anywhere in the "tech" industry and anyone who earns a CS degree is doomed to starve to death in poverty.

    The question should be: "What was your favorite distraction in college before you graduated into the real world where economic opportunity doesn't exist?"

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @07:14PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @07:14PM (#621902)

    Don't make me shove this boot up your cloaca.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @08:15PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 13 2018, @08:15PM (#621917)

      Bring it on, robut bitch.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 14 2018, @01:25AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 14 2018, @01:25AM (#622036)

        Kiss my shiny metal daffodil!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:48AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:48AM (#624576)

    Understood.

    When I was in Aerospace, it became quite obvious of the pecking order...

    Number 1 was the organizational skills of the executive, knowing who to place over who, and how much power he should delegate to each. This skill was worth about 6 million dollars a year.

    Number 2 was the leadership skills of the managerial level. They used leadership skills to set what the level below them would be allowed to do. These were valued up to aroung $600K per year or so.

    Number 3 was the do-ership skills of the engineers. This topped out about $100K. The good ones were highly skilled at doing dog-and-pony shows. The ones actually mechanizing the dreams were lumped at the top of the last group, and were quite expendable.

    Number 4, the last group, was the craftmenship skills of the builders/assemblers. Their worth was between about twice the wage of a fast food chef, and the lowest level of Engineering. Maybe topping 60K or so. And these people came and went like the tide, according to which company got a government contract. These people actually built the things we sold to the Government, and had first hand experience on exactly what to do to make one that works, and one that looks like it will work and won't.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:20AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:20AM (#625049)

      Number 5 is the highly educated engineer who volunteers to clean toilets at the soup kitchen. This is the guy who can't find a job because every job is taken by talentless bullshitters whose only skill is sucking dick. This is the guy who offers to do volunteer tech support for the soup kitchen, but is told, "We contract an Indian tech firm." This is the guy who offers to hook up the soup kitchen with cheaper internet, but is told, "We already have Comcast." This is the guy who is treated with suspicion at every attempt to apply any skills because, "You would have a job if you were any good." This is the guy who gets fired from a volunteer job at the soup kitchen because, "We can find someone more likeable to clean our toilets."

      Always wear gloves when emptying the garbage in the women's restroom, because they throw tampons in the garbage.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:38AM (6 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:38AM (#625508) Journal

        This is the guy who is treated with suspicion at every attempt to apply any skills because, "You would have a job if you were any good."

        Yes, that is the problem with the story. It's not that hard to find a job.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @05:46PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @05:46PM (#625721)

          It's not that hard to find a job.

          Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 21 2018, @06:21PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 21 2018, @06:21PM (#625732) Journal

            Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

            Words have meaning. Lying means intentionally stating falsehoods. Truth is never a lie as a result.

          • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday January 25 2018, @04:44PM (1 child)

            by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday January 25 2018, @04:44PM (#627745) Journal

            Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

            Where exactly is your evidence that he believes his claim to be wrong? I certainly don't have that impression.

            --
            The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @09:48AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @09:48AM (#629381)

              You're probably right. He's just a moron.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:03AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:03AM (#629387)

          It depends. If you don't lie and claim you've used a certain technology for longer than it has actually existed, then it can be hard to find a job. If you don't seem "likable" (actual introverts not welcome), it can be hard to find a job. If you don't follow arbitrary dress codes, good luck finding a job. If you don't have a piece of paper but are more educated than the vast majority of people with said piece of paper (autodidacts don't exist), good luck finding a job. Essentially, you need to become a run-of-the-mill bullshitter and kiss the status quo's boots to increase your chances of finding a job. People with principles want no part in that. Have fun with your self-employment.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @01:27PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @01:27PM (#630317)

            Translation: no one wants to hire an asshole with no qualifications (but some skills). Anyone who isn't an asshole with no qualifications is a bootlicker.

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday February 02 2018, @01:55PM

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 02 2018, @01:55PM (#631990)

    "What was your favorite distraction in college before you graduated into the real world where economic opportunity doesn't exist?"

    In about '94 or so you couldn't get a job with this Linux and "internet" stuff. Sorry yo, we're professionals here and only use SunOS and Ultrix and AIX not this Linux stuff and we prefer SNA using source route bridging and SDLC bridges, that IP stuff is interesting but just a flash in the pan. You seem like a bright kid, maybe you could pull biaxial cable and bus-n-tag connectors and terminate token ring cables until you learn the professional stuff. Well, it paid the bills. Things turned around after awhile. My salary quintupled, IIRC.

    My favorite SunOS memory from about '93 or sometime in the 90s anyway was mtools was a new software suite and mostly worked however a corrupted floppy would cause the SunOS kernel to crash and at the time I was kinda a unix noob so I crashed about 10% of the machine room by carrying my floppy from machine to machine trying to get it to work. Amazingly I didn't get in trouble but one of the older sysadmins, a real dinosaur from the unix 80s, did give me a WTF lecture which I guess was my punishment? While the end users were screaming but ignored? Thats kinda how things rolled back in the very old days. No one wanted to admit you could crash the kernel with a buggy userspace program so it was all kinda papered over and ignored.

    My second favorite distraction was chicks like the one who picked up one of the world's first linux distro cdroms and asked what those guys sound like.

  • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Sunday February 04 2018, @01:14AM

    by Magic Oddball (3847) on Sunday February 04 2018, @01:14AM (#632738) Journal

    "What was your favorite distraction in college before you graduated into the real world where economic opportunity doesn't exist?"

    While it wasn't my most frequent distraction (IM & email discussion lists), my actual favorite was to hang out on Usenet, particularly the Ultima Dragons newsgroup, which more often than not tended to focus on topics completely unrelated to our shared interest. (The most memorable example being a long thread in which a bunch of us attempted to convince one member that most women do wash their genitals, as he had commented offhand that he didn't like giving oral sex because his wife refused to do so and claimed nobody else does, either.)

    I started out spending time on Usenet again back around the time Soylent News came out, but the lack of decent Linux clients — like ones that don't hardcode line-breaks — caused me to drift away again. I tried using Wine to run old copies of the programs I used back in the day, but can't manage to get the fonts to not be distorted & jaggy without making them gigantic.