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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:48AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 19 2018, @04:48AM (#624576)

    Understood.

    When I was in Aerospace, it became quite obvious of the pecking order...

    Number 1 was the organizational skills of the executive, knowing who to place over who, and how much power he should delegate to each. This skill was worth about 6 million dollars a year.

    Number 2 was the leadership skills of the managerial level. They used leadership skills to set what the level below them would be allowed to do. These were valued up to aroung $600K per year or so.

    Number 3 was the do-ership skills of the engineers. This topped out about $100K. The good ones were highly skilled at doing dog-and-pony shows. The ones actually mechanizing the dreams were lumped at the top of the last group, and were quite expendable.

    Number 4, the last group, was the craftmenship skills of the builders/assemblers. Their worth was between about twice the wage of a fast food chef, and the lowest level of Engineering. Maybe topping 60K or so. And these people came and went like the tide, according to which company got a government contract. These people actually built the things we sold to the Government, and had first hand experience on exactly what to do to make one that works, and one that looks like it will work and won't.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:20AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 20 2018, @05:20AM (#625049)

    Number 5 is the highly educated engineer who volunteers to clean toilets at the soup kitchen. This is the guy who can't find a job because every job is taken by talentless bullshitters whose only skill is sucking dick. This is the guy who offers to do volunteer tech support for the soup kitchen, but is told, "We contract an Indian tech firm." This is the guy who offers to hook up the soup kitchen with cheaper internet, but is told, "We already have Comcast." This is the guy who is treated with suspicion at every attempt to apply any skills because, "You would have a job if you were any good." This is the guy who gets fired from a volunteer job at the soup kitchen because, "We can find someone more likeable to clean our toilets."

    Always wear gloves when emptying the garbage in the women's restroom, because they throw tampons in the garbage.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:38AM (6 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 21 2018, @03:38AM (#625508) Journal

      This is the guy who is treated with suspicion at every attempt to apply any skills because, "You would have a job if you were any good."

      Yes, that is the problem with the story. It's not that hard to find a job.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @05:46PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 21 2018, @05:46PM (#625721)

        It's not that hard to find a job.

        Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 21 2018, @06:21PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 21 2018, @06:21PM (#625732) Journal

          Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

          Words have meaning. Lying means intentionally stating falsehoods. Truth is never a lie as a result.

        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday January 25 2018, @04:44PM (1 child)

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday January 25 2018, @04:44PM (#627745) Journal

          Here's the problem with your assertion. You're lying.

          Where exactly is your evidence that he believes his claim to be wrong? I certainly don't have that impression.

          --
          The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @09:48AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @09:48AM (#629381)

            You're probably right. He's just a moron.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:03AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @10:03AM (#629387)

        It depends. If you don't lie and claim you've used a certain technology for longer than it has actually existed, then it can be hard to find a job. If you don't seem "likable" (actual introverts not welcome), it can be hard to find a job. If you don't follow arbitrary dress codes, good luck finding a job. If you don't have a piece of paper but are more educated than the vast majority of people with said piece of paper (autodidacts don't exist), good luck finding a job. Essentially, you need to become a run-of-the-mill bullshitter and kiss the status quo's boots to increase your chances of finding a job. People with principles want no part in that. Have fun with your self-employment.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @01:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 30 2018, @01:27PM (#630317)

          Translation: no one wants to hire an asshole with no qualifications (but some skills). Anyone who isn't an asshole with no qualifications is a bootlicker.