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posted by Dopefish on Sunday February 23 2014, @02:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the all-hail-the-almighty-atom dept.

CyberB0B39 writes: "The Department of Energy is set to approve $6.5B for a Georgia nuclear power plant, the first such plant in more than 3 decades. While other nuclear plants are shutting down due to competition from natural gas, Atlanta-based Southern Company is forging ahead with its planned construction of the plant."

[ED Note: "For those that are wondering, the new nuclear plant will be based on the AP1000 design by Westinghouse Electric Company LLC, a company based in Pittsburgh, PA and a subsidiary of Toshiba."]

 
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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by wjwlsn on Sunday February 23 2014, @04:44AM

    by wjwlsn (171) on Sunday February 23 2014, @04:44AM (#5081) Homepage Journal

    LFTR is a great idea. We need a utility-scale demonstrator to be built and run for a few years before anybody will take it seriously, though. Gone are the days where such demonstrator plants can be built quickly and inexpensively to test unproven designs. (And please don't try to tell me LFTR is proven... I'm talking about detailed design ready for construction, commissioning, startup testing, and commercial ops... not a conceptual design.)

    I'm talking about demonstrators (US-centric) like:

    Vallecitos, Elk River, La Crosse, Humboldt Bay - GE Boiling Water Reactors
    Hallam - Liquid Metal cooled Graphite Moderated Reactor
    Fermi 1 - Liquid Metal Fast Breeder
    Piqua - Organically cooled and Moderated
    Shippingport - Pressurized Water Reactor, later conversion to Light Water Breeder
    Peach Bottom 1 - High Temperature Gas-cooled Reactor
    Pathfinder - Allis Chalmers Boiling Water Reactor
    Carolinas_Virginia Tube Reactor (CVTR) - Pressurized Heavy Water Reactor
    Boiling Nuclear Superheater (BONUS) - as the name says
    Saxton - Pressurized Water Reactor

    These were all built in the 60s (I think), each in 3 to 4 years. They were all small reactors, but they were utility-scale. They all started up. Some ran for several years, and some were failures (Hallam, Fermi 1, Pathfinder, etc.) The successes formed the base of the commercial industry that exists today. It's important to note that these were all built and operated by utilities, with Atomic Energy Commission (now Nuclear Regulatory Commission) oversight... not at national labs. This is the kind of thing we need for LFTE before anyone in the industry will ever take it seriously.

    Anyway, those are the ones I can recall off the top of my head. I think I may have missed a couple.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Khyber on Sunday February 23 2014, @12:27PM

    by Khyber (54) on Sunday February 23 2014, @12:27PM (#5162) Journal

    "We need a utility-scale demonstrator to be built and run for a few years before anybody will take it seriously, though"

    60MW in Prague already in operation, sir, developed by an Australian company. Prototype was done in 2012.

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    • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Sunday February 23 2014, @01:36PM

      by TheRaven (270) on Sunday February 23 2014, @01:36PM (#5176) Journal
      60MW is quite a large-sounding number, but it's over an order of magnitude smaller than the kinds of reactor we're talking about here, so I don't know that it counts as utility-scale. It would just about power a small town.
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      • (Score: 3) by wjwlsn on Sunday February 23 2014, @02:02PM

        by wjwlsn (171) on Sunday February 23 2014, @02:02PM (#5183) Homepage Journal

        Actually, 60 MW would satisfy me. That's big enough to demonstrate commercial feasibility. Many of the demonstrators I listed were of similar size. Light Water Reactor industry kind of followed a sequence like: 5 MW test, 50 MW demonstrator, 200-300 MW small plant, 600-800 MW full-size plant, 900-1300 MW fully developed evolution of basic design.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by wjwlsn on Sunday February 23 2014, @01:51PM

      by wjwlsn (171) on Sunday February 23 2014, @01:51PM (#5182) Homepage Journal

      Please provide a reference! This would be exciting news... but the only stuff I can find is the general "consortium is formed, development is in progress, exciting future upon us" kind of thing. The whole situation is rather reminiscent of the Pebble Bed Modular Reactor (PBMR) craze from last decade; lots of basic research, lots of announcements, lots of excitement, but still no operating demo reactor anywhere that I'm aware of. The apparent leading consortium for PBMR was placed in a politically induced coma a couple of years ago.

      http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2010/09/17/hogan- ends-pebble-bed-reactor-project [bdlive.co.za]

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