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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 31 2018, @09:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the voice-of-Jobs-experience dept.

https://www.investopedia.com/news/steve-wozniak-turns-tesla-critic-doesnt-trust-elon-musk/

Steve Wozniak spoke recently at the Nordic Business Forum in Stockholm. A clipping from the end of the short article,

After years of upgrades and new sensors, Woz sees Tesla as a company that has made major promises and delivered well under the bar. "I love that car, but the trouble is Elon Musk is portrayed in a lot of moves with a lack of faith and trust," he said. "What he says, can you really believe in him? Is he just a good salesman, like Jobs, and may not be there [in the end]?"

Wozniak went as far as to suggest that "every other car manufacturer in the world," including Audi and BMW, "are actually ahead of Tesla for self-driving cars." He then praised his Chevy Bolt EV, which he prefers to drive for everyday life.

It doesn't seem that long ago that Woz was calling out Toyota for problems with the cruise control on his Prius, but here's an update from 2010 -- https://gizmodo.com/5462205/steve-wozniak-update-on-his-prius-problems


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Snow on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:27PM (13 children)

    by Snow (1601) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:27PM (#631218) Journal

    -- Nothing is 100% reliable, especially you.
    -- They can just spy on you using your cell phone that you willingly take everywhere you go.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:42PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:42PM (#631221)

    No cell phone, so no spying on me that way, but now there is the national license plate database built from many, many cameras on the roads. Pretty hard to take a private trip these days by car. Bicycle might be a better option.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:56PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:56PM (#631228)

      Gonna need to invest in a hat, big sunglasses and a fake beard. Facial recognition is better and better and you bet they'll be extra curious who the bikers are.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:25PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:25PM (#631250)

      Neither foot nor bicycle will work by itself. You additionally would need to vary your clothing/bike coloration between areas, and ideally obscure your face, whether via hat, sunglasses, mask, or facial prosthetics (the latter may be illegal depending on region and legal guidelines).

      Besides that, the only way to ensure future privacy is either to move to a country that does have nor plan to have these systems in place, or find a sufficient number of people to found your own state living up to the privacy ideals America was meant to have, but the populace has been entirely willing to give up thanks to being 'true patriots', 'apathetic assholes', or 'traitors to the founding principles of this once glorious Union.', depending on the person and your views of them.

  • (Score: 3, Troll) by bob_super on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:54PM (1 child)

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @10:54PM (#631227)

    > -- Nothing is 100% reliable, especially you.

    I'll trust an autonomous car after they demonstrate it going safely unescorted from Panama City to Rio via La Paz without using major highways. Or maybe Beijing to Tashkent via Bangkok.

    Keep testing in CA and AZ as much as you want. It's one step up from a private track, but a long long way from the roads most potential buyers travel.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:17PM

      by frojack (1554) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:17PM (#631243) Journal

      It's one step up from a private track, but a long long way from the roads most potential buyers travel.

      I'd be impressed to see an AV given a destination 400 miles and one state away, without any forewarning to its developers, and have it arrive, roughly on time, through normal traffic, without becoming a huge impediment to traffic along the route. Extra points if the destination or the route could be changed on a whim to take US Routes rather than Freeways, and visit some historical site along the way.

      Supposedly Google just orderd a thousand more cars from Chrysler.

      These rumors of cars with no brakes, or steering wheel might work on private campuses. But not going to work in rural areas, dirt roads, snowy roads, or when you have to park on the lawn at the highschool foot ball game.

      --
      No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:21PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:21PM (#631246)

    -- Nothing is 100% reliable, especially you.

    This. Autonomous vehicles don't need to be 100% reliable, though that is definitely something to strive toward; they only need to be consistently more reliable than the largely-idiot meatbags that currently pilot cars around the streets and highways.

    -- They can just spy on you using your cell phone that you willingly take everywhere you go.

    Ha! Got you there. I only have a land line.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 31 2018, @11:29PM (#631252)

      Autonomous cars are only trustworthy to the establishment. Not to the owner or operator of the vehicle.

      And that is where the concern comes from that would keep me from riding in an autonomous vehicle, over a pre-throttle-by-wire manual transmission vehicle. The newer vehicles take away every function you could use to keep yourself save in the event the vehicle is compromised. And they make it exceedingly easy to make an assassination look like an accident if they so deem it necessary.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 01 2018, @03:18AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 01 2018, @03:18AM (#631318)

      Ha! Got you there. I only have a land line.

      Ha brilliant! So when they call you, the voice recognition might tell them who you are, but they'll have no idea where you are!

      • (Score: 2) by chromas on Thursday February 01 2018, @12:09PM

        by chromas (34) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 01 2018, @12:09PM (#631437) Journal

        I got an extra long curly cord just so I can roam around while using the land line.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday February 01 2018, @02:49AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 01 2018, @02:49AM (#631307) Journal

    -- Nothing is 100% reliable, especially you.

    At least I'll be dead mainly because of my fault rather than the fault of a tired programmer, a je-m'en-fiche QA and a clueless mid-level manager with a agile-dev, deliver early, deliver-often, God will sort them out mindset.

    -- They can just spy on you using your cell phone that you willingly take everywhere you go.

    I haven't heard yet of any mobile able to communicate from inside a proper Faraday cage.
    An tin/Al foil is good for blocking the microwave signal, works both for tin-foil hats and for mobile phone enclosures.

    Now, go wrap your car in Al foil and then we'll discuss some more.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
    • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday February 01 2018, @10:35AM

      by kazzie (5309) on Thursday February 01 2018, @10:35AM (#631412)

      Make sure you wrap the car windows in foil too, or the Faraday cage won't work.