And to add, I assume different distros are counted as different OSes (Debian vs Arch vs Slackware vs ....), so then do we then also count release versions (Ubuntu 12.04LTS vs Ubuntu 16.04 vs ...) like we would for Windows (95 vs 98 vs XP vs 7 vs ...)?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @10:00PM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday February 06 2018, @10:00PM (#634122)
so then do we then also count release versions (Ubuntu 12.04LTS vs Ubuntu 16.04 vs ...) like we would for Windows (95 vs 98 vs XP vs 7 vs ...)?
What about DOSes from before the GUI became common?
TRS-DOS don't remember what version(s) Apple DOS 3.2, 3.3, ProDOS 8, ProDOS 16, GS/OS multiple versions, Beagle Bros ProntoDOS CP/M don't remember version(s) MS-DOS 3.3, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x DR-DOS 5.x, 6.x, 7.x PC-DOS 3.3, grud-knows-which other versions FreeDOS 0.x, 1.x
And that's before considering the BSDs, the many Linux distros and releases of each, Mac OS versions and the various flavors of Windows, Android versions, iOS versions, etc.
C-64. Poser! Real computer users were on the CBM or PET! (Actually it was 4016s and 4032s I used at school when I couldn't get time on the TRS-80 Model IIIs. Until my folks gave me an incredible present of a Model III of my own.)
Count all Linux versions as one thing (Although, obviously Yggdrasil ought to count on its own). And all Windows versions is one (But DOS is a separate thing). DRDos and Gem are different - get the idea.
Do I count real BSD from Berkeley with and without my hacks as two different things?
If I count the modern *BSDs as 3 different things, then I get to 40, and I am sure I forgot some. What about USCD Pascal? (Its behind you! - Oh no it isn't) And that Fortran only environment on CDC6600s?
-- Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
That's not really fair. You can't lump Windows'95 in with Windows 8 - they are significantly different beasts in all aspects that anyone encounters. Different suggestion: count every version that you'd consider separate as a different OS. Sure, it's somewhat arbitrary, but it beats lumping everything from WfW3.11 to Win10 into one category.
Moreover, as to embedded systems (e.g. microwave, car) or other OS's where you don't really know what the OS is (e.g. NES, SNES, ...): don't count 'em.
For me, this leads to the following list: - ZX Spectrum Basic - C64 basic - Dos 3.0, 3.1, 3.13, 5.0, 6.0 - Windows for Workgroups 3.11 - Windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, NT, Vista, 8 - Ubuntu LTS: 6.06, 8.04, 12.04, 16.04 - Ubuntu 7 (i think) - Slackware - FreeBSD
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:09AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:09AM (#637467)
That's not really fair. You can't lump Windows'95 in with Windows 8
I beg to differ. Once set up, there's not THAT much difference between 95 and 7 (I haven't really used Vista much, but when I did, nothing really surprised me. Ten... ten may make me change my mind, tho - I've SEEN some things in Ten, man...)
Turning off all the thrice-damned "dynamic menu" garbage helps a lot (where am I today? Am I overrr here? NOPE! I'm over here! Can't catch me!), and the Windows-style shortcut keys haven't changed insofar as the really common ones. I can still pop open an Explorer window from anywhere with windowskey+E and then just drill down to the program executable's location.
Under the hood, yes, there's a lot of changes from 95 to 8 - most of them quite good. From the usability and UI perspective, tho, with a little bit of tweaking using the very options provided within Windows itself, you can maintain a mostly-consistent look all the way from 95 to 8. My Wintendo's desktop and Start menu on 7 looks almost identical to 95, as does the Control Panel and Explorer layout.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 18 2018, @01:49PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday February 18 2018, @01:49PM (#639689)
C64? XZ81? Many would debate it wasn't technically an OS on there.
Soooo one needs to define what an OS is as a baseline, and at what point does a derivative count as a unique entity. ( like going from 98 to 98SE should not count as 2 )
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 12 2018, @08:49PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday February 12 2018, @08:49PM (#636823)
I went much more conservative:
All Windows Oses, I counted as one. All Linux distros, I counted as one. All pre-Mac OS Xes, I counted as one. All Mac OS Xes, I counted as one. Each separate BSD, I counted individually. But each of the "desktop friendly" BSDs were all considered FreeBSD, so not counted again. Old SunOS and Solaris were two OSes. All Androids, Windows Mobiles, and IPhones/IPods were counted one each.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DECbot on Monday February 05 2018, @08:16PM (9 children)
And to add, I assume different distros are counted as different OSes (Debian vs Arch vs Slackware vs ....), so then do we then also count release versions (Ubuntu 12.04LTS vs Ubuntu 16.04 vs ...) like we would for Windows (95 vs 98 vs XP vs 7 vs ...)?
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @09:32PM
release versions?! But I'm on Gentoo!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06 2018, @10:00PM (2 children)
What about DOSes from before the GUI became common?
TRS-DOS don't remember what version(s)
Apple DOS 3.2, 3.3, ProDOS 8, ProDOS 16, GS/OS multiple versions, Beagle Bros ProntoDOS
CP/M don't remember version(s)
MS-DOS 3.3, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x
DR-DOS 5.x, 6.x, 7.x
PC-DOS 3.3, grud-knows-which other versions
FreeDOS 0.x, 1.x
And that's before considering the BSDs, the many Linux distros and releases of each, Mac OS versions and the various flavors of Windows, Android versions, iOS versions, etc.
(Score: 2) by Appalbarry on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:36AM (1 child)
Hey! Where's my Commodore 64 [wikipedia.org] you insensitive clod!
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday February 21 2018, @07:06PM
C-64. Poser! Real computer users were on the CBM or PET! (Actually it was 4016s and 4032s I used at school when I couldn't get time on the TRS-80 Model IIIs. Until my folks gave me an incredible present of a Model III of my own.)
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Saturday February 10 2018, @07:17PM (3 children)
No.
Count all Linux versions as one thing (Although, obviously Yggdrasil ought to count on its own). And all Windows versions is one (But DOS is a separate thing). DRDos and Gem are different - get the idea.
Do I count real BSD from Berkeley with and without my hacks as two different things?
If I count the modern *BSDs as 3 different things, then I get to 40, and I am sure I forgot some. What about USCD Pascal? (Its behind you! - Oh no it isn't) And that Fortran only environment on CDC6600s?
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 2) by FakeBeldin on Tuesday February 13 2018, @10:13AM (2 children)
That's not really fair. You can't lump Windows'95 in with Windows 8 - they are significantly different beasts in all aspects that anyone encounters.
Different suggestion: count every version that you'd consider separate as a different OS.
Sure, it's somewhat arbitrary, but it beats lumping everything from WfW3.11 to Win10 into one category.
Moreover, as to embedded systems (e.g. microwave, car) or other OS's where you don't really know what the OS is (e.g. NES, SNES, ...): don't count 'em.
For me, this leads to the following list:
- ZX Spectrum Basic
- C64 basic
- Dos 3.0, 3.1, 3.13, 5.0, 6.0
- Windows for Workgroups 3.11
- Windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, NT, Vista, 8
- Ubuntu LTS: 6.06, 8.04, 12.04, 16.04
- Ubuntu 7 (i think)
- Slackware
- FreeBSD
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:09AM
That's not really fair. You can't lump Windows'95 in with Windows 8
I beg to differ. Once set up, there's not THAT much difference between 95 and 7 (I haven't really used Vista much, but when I did, nothing really surprised me. Ten... ten may make me change my mind, tho - I've SEEN some things in Ten, man...)
Turning off all the thrice-damned "dynamic menu" garbage helps a lot (where am I today? Am I overrr here? NOPE! I'm over here! Can't catch me!), and the Windows-style shortcut keys haven't changed insofar as the really common ones. I can still pop open an Explorer window from anywhere with windowskey+E and then just drill down to the program executable's location.
Under the hood, yes, there's a lot of changes from 95 to 8 - most of them quite good. From the usability and UI perspective, tho, with a little bit of tweaking using the very options provided within Windows itself, you can maintain a mostly-consistent look all the way from 95 to 8. My Wintendo's desktop and Start menu on 7 looks almost identical to 95, as does the Control Panel and Explorer layout.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 18 2018, @01:49PM
C64? XZ81? Many would debate it wasn't technically an OS on there.
Soooo one needs to define what an OS is as a baseline, and at what point does a derivative count as a unique entity. ( like going from 98 to 98SE should not count as 2 )
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 12 2018, @08:49PM
I went much more conservative:
All Windows Oses, I counted as one.
All Linux distros, I counted as one.
All pre-Mac OS Xes, I counted as one.
All Mac OS Xes, I counted as one.
Each separate BSD, I counted individually. But each of the "desktop friendly" BSDs were all considered FreeBSD, so not counted again.
Old SunOS and Solaris were two OSes.
All Androids, Windows Mobiles, and IPhones/IPods were counted one each.