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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday February 10 2018, @08:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the maybe-Y-will-be-better dept.

Chris Siebenmann over on his personal web page at the University of Toronto writes about X networking. He points out two main shortcomings preventing realization of the original vision of network transparancy. One is network speed and latency. The other is a too narrow scope for X's communication facilities.

X's network transparency was not designed as 'it will run xterm well'; originally it was to be something that should let you run almost everything remotely, providing a full environment. Even apart from the practical issues covered in Daniel Stone's slide presentation [warning for PDF], it's clear that it's been years since X could deliver a real first class environment over the network. You cannot operate with X over the network in the same way that you do locally. Trying to do so is painful and involves many things that either don't work at all or perform so badly that you don't want to use them.

Remote display protocols remain useful, but it's time to admit another way will have to be found. What's the latest word on Wayland or Mir?

Source : X's network transparency has wound up mostly being a failure


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 10 2018, @09:12AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 10 2018, @09:12AM (#635946)

    Be fair, wayland is going somewhere....

    X networking is fine for xeyes, if there was :
    1. a list of the subset of programs commonly available on unix systems that work via Xs' network transparency; or
    2. a list of the subset of programs that don't and why

    it may get more credit.

    I know I want it, just never got it to do anything useful at a usable speed.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:20AM (#637988)

    Anything that use the GPU to accelerate something is likely to cause you problems, because those invariably bypass X to talk directly to the hardware for some blinkered reason.