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Parkland Health & Hospital System in Dallas[1] will raise its own minimum wage to $10.25 an hour next month...
The wage increase will cost the hospital about $350,000 a year. The expense will be covered with money from the upcoming quarter's bonus pool for the hospital's 60 vice presidents and top executives.
After this, every worker employed by Dallas County will make at least $10.25 an hour (still not a living wage by many measures).
Note also that this will barely put a dent in that pool, expected to be at least $3M for the year.
[1] People who have memories of November 22, 1963 will remember that as a historic location
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Can anyone remember when the times were not hard, and money not scarce?
(Score: 3, Informative) by RaffArundel on Tuesday June 17 2014, @12:47PM
Two things:
It's not? Maybe you are forgetting the cost of living is a lot lower in Dallas than the cities listed in your link. Here is what CNN has to say based on 100k in San Francisco:
Comparable salary in Dallas, TX: $59,463
Price difference in Dallas, TX
Groceries 19% less
Housing 75% less
Utilities 9% more
Transportation 11% less
Health Care 17% less
So, how high does the minimum need to be to meet your standard? Do you want San Francisco to raise it to ~$20/hr or do you think the equivalent of $35k a year is good?
Okay, looks like another problem with perspective - it is over 10% of the pool. We finally get to correctly state: the executive DECIMATED their bonuses for the good of the workers.
So, serious question - what exactly do they need to do to satisfy you?
As an aside, Parkland is the main public hospital for the (high population) county. In addition to being the central office for all the Dallas county public health facilities, it is a teaching hospital for both Texas Women's University and a branch of UT's medical school. It is also huge. So having a large number of executives is not all that surprising, what is surprising is what that bonus actually works out to - seems actually low. But ignore me - while I have never needed their services they have saved the lives of friends and family, so I am biased.
(Score: 4, Informative) by VLM on Tuesday June 17 2014, @01:27PM
Is it a living wage?
Googled "average rent in Dallas" and got "As of May, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Dallas, TX is $1137."
Now note the minimum income vs the average rent MIGHT not be fair, so lets research it. I googled for median income Dallas TX and from citydata I got "Estimated median household income in 2011: $40,585" So assume a two earner household (room mate, couple, nuclear family, etc) and further more make the rather optimistic assumption two adults means two employed adults (LOL that is so not true, there aren't enough jobs, but...) that means the median worker in TX gets $20250 per year. 10.25*40*52 = $21K, which is ridiculously close. So the average dude living with a roommate in Dallas will earn $10.25 * 40 * 4 = $1640 gross per month before taxes, while paying 1137/2 = $570 in rent. 570 / 1640 = 35%. Most people think its reasonable to budget about 1/3 your income on housing. So at least in Dallas this is a pretty reasonable pay rate.
It does clearly show the destruction of the middle class, where $10/hr is now the median. So half the population is worse off (OMFG) and half is better off (the 60 VPs splitting an enormous bonus pool).
I would be fairly mystified about the lower transportation expenses in TX because in urban CA there's supposedly decent cheap public transit, but in TX everyone feels the need to drive a 8 MPG F-350 dualie 15 miles to the nearest convenience store. I know public transit is expensive, but is it really that much more expensive? That does make the other figures look a little "weird". Also WRT cost of living I'm sure Amazon doesn't discount your purchases by 75% merely because the shipping zip is poorer, I know cars and gasoline cost the same, food is "about the same" other then the effect of cost of store rent and cost of employee labor.
(Score: 3, Informative) by RaffArundel on Tuesday June 17 2014, @02:22PM
If you are going to use the numbers from 2011, keep in mind the average rent was $794 according to http://www.city-data.com/city/Dallas-Texas.html [city-data.com] but I don't have a quick source for median income for 2014, but you are welcome to post it.
Median household income is obviously by household, so simply dividing by 2 is not a fair representation. The per capita income in 2011 was $25k. The question was: is it a living wage? I am fortunate, so I don't know how hard the budgeting that amount is, but as I asked in the title - Perspective? I think $25k in the Dallas area is probably better than $30-35k in many other areas where I lived.
They do? I can't recall seeing one in recent memory which didn't have a company logo on the side. I suspect there is some stereotyping going on - the highways around here are awash with Prius not Hummers. Transportation prices are lower because fuel costs are lower.
We are probably not the best demographic to discuss this, but people don't get their toilet paper from Amazon. As previously mentioned, neither gas nor food is "about the same" according to CNN. I am mildly surprised that utilities run higher, but that just encourages people to use less, which I am all for. I don't live there, so I don't use public transportation but the DART has some very good coverage. I don't know how utilized it is, so I won't speculate.
You won't get an argument from me regarding the state of the middle class - but throwing around those numbers without accounting for cost of living skews the real issue. My point wasn't that at all regardless, it was putting things in perspective. So, instead of a $50k bonus, these executives get ~45k and the 5k drop in their bonus goes to the workers, who now get ~1.5k more a year. You may think it is not enough, but this is a good thing. The summary makes it look like they should not have bothered or worse, that this is a bad thing.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 17 2014, @02:41PM
Where I come from, the boss gets paid last. Where I come from, bonuses are paid when performance exceeds expectations. If this organization has been choosing to pay bonuses to its executives while keeping its workers dependent on food stamps, then I see that as transferring money from the SNAP program into executive compensation. I really hate when my taxes are used to make a company look successful or to pay executive bonuses.
Honestly, you can use "decimated" and its connotation of 10% mortality to make this seem like a huge sacrifice, but no one's going to die. These exec's are not making any kind of a grand sacrifice here. They still get 100% of their salaries, benefits, and retirement. They give up, on average, less than $6000 each, from a bonus pool of $50k each. Which is, let me remind you, BONUS money for excellent management performance.
In the libertarian utopia, companies pay their employees as much as possible in order to recruit the best labor. Don't you think "as much as possible" is more than the legally mandated minimum? I think this is an excellent move. I'm not going to criticize it as too little sacrifice from the execs (although do I think even using the word "sacrifice" inflates the exchange), and I'm not going to suggest that the hospital should pay all of its employees the Dallas median wage. I think it's an excellent demonstration that paying its lowliest employees a reasonable wage is not going to bankrupt a well run organization and an excellent demonstration that the multiple between lowest and highest paid employees has gotten out of hand.
(Score: 2) by RaffArundel on Tuesday June 17 2014, @09:54PM
Nah, that was a joke that fell flat. There was something FINALLY that really was 10% (I have to listen to sports fans throw that word around a lot) so my stream of thought went that way.
Let's be even more clear - there is nothing altruistic about this move. They want to keep the employees so they don't have to spend even more money hiring and training new people. If that makes the workers' lives better I am all for it. The submitter clearly finds anything less than full blown class warfare unacceptable - so I got trolled by TFS.
Do libertarians actually believe that? This is a sincere question - because I thought they believed in paying that mythical "market value" (re: artificially deflated due to lack of actual competition) for talent.
I guess the problem with answering your question is - what is "possible"? I speculate if you are just in it for the profit, "as much as possible" is actually "as little as possible". Conversely, if you have a business and you actually want your employees to be dare I say happy, perhaps the bottom line profit isn't what matters and you judge your success on customer satisfaction. In which case, it would be stupid to pay them a cut-rate amount.
In this case, the hospital decided that paying the person previously at the lowest rung $8 an hour was a bad thing. They could easily afford it, so they gave them a raise. I'd like to see more of that.
(Score: 1) by strattitarius on Tuesday June 17 2014, @02:59PM
Have you ever played a tower defense game and know you need to save up for *SUPERSPECIALUPGRADE* but can't because you are spending every dime trying to prevent those damn trolls from breaking through? That's what it's like to make about $10/hr, when you are single with no kids. When you have kids it's like putting the TD game on super hard and getting your ass handed to you.
Second, the cost of living doesn't change that much from normal place to normal place. That does not include the bay area, NYC, some of Chicago and some of Seattle (and probably a few others). If you are trying to compare cost of living just throw those out the window... it skews the data. What's the difference from Dallas to Cleveland? Probably not that much. Cleveland to Georgia? And finally Georgia to Dallas? It's not much different.
So what do I want... I want a realization that we have setup a society where the well-off can move about freely, without the need for armed security guards because we have police paid for by taxes, and we have ensured that people do not become unable to meet their needs and some desires and turn to taking possessions from the well-off crowd.
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(Score: 2) by RaffArundel on Tuesday June 17 2014, @09:33PM
It looks like you are responding to me, but you may be reading your own prejudices into this discussion. At no point in time did I advocate "allowing the plebes to just scrape by" suggested by this reply. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "our entire goal" but I would probably surprise you if I actually voiced my opinions on such things concerning the growing divide between earners and the detrimental effect it most certainly has on society. I also have rather centrist views on the the role of government providing social security (note the lowercase) to the citizens and residents of this country.
I said no such thing. The post suggested this wasn't a livable wage based on prices in San Francisco and Seattle, here is the direct quote: "After this, every worker employed by Dallas County will make at least $10.25 an hour (still not a living wage by many measures)."
That link is an article by Ralph Nader praising the minimum wage hikes in some of the most expensive places to live - to about this level. So, if you want to argue that $10 an hour isn't livable in Dallas (or Cleveland) fine, take it up with him, but it does stretch a lot further in the places you mention than the places where the link suggests it is wonderful. TFS reeks of click-bait and I was hoping we left that behind at the other site.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 17 2014, @07:30PM
what exactly do they need to do to satisfy you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hara-kiri [wikipedia.org]
If there's going to be class warfare, I want total victory.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday June 17 2014, @07:59PM
Careful, I got modded "T" for using the "C" word!
(Score: 1) by Hawkwind on Wednesday June 18 2014, @12:03AM
Wish I had mod points. I could mod you down for complaining about modding, and mod you up for being funny.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Wednesday June 18 2014, @02:07AM
But that would be just like taking from the VPs to pay the minimum wage workers! A net wash! (And please don't mod me down, I wasn't complaining!! Please, sir, may I have another? )