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posted by martyb on Sunday February 18 2018, @03:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the off-base-transactions dept.

[Update] There have been new developments to this story:

According to Techcrunch:

Yesterday, we wrote that Coinbase customers were being charged multiple times for past transactions.

While some speculated that the erroneous withdraws were down to a Coinbase engineering issue, Coinbase issued a statement saying it wasn’t liable for the duplicate charges. The blame, instead, rested with Visa for the way it handled a migration of merchant categories for cryptocurrencies, Coinbase said.

While you can read my post yesterday for an in-depth description of what happened, the basic gist is that about a month of old transactions were refunded and recharged under a different merchant category. Many users saw the recharge come through before the refund processed, making it look like they were double charged. Honestly, the issue was likely exacerbated by existing payment rails — it’s normal for refunds to take multiple days to show up on credit and debit statements.

Here is the joint statement by Visa and Worldpay (Coinbase):

Over the last two days, some customers who used a credit or debit card at Coinbase may have seen duplicate transactions posted to their cardholder accounts.

This issue was not caused by Coinbase.

Worldpay and Coinbase have been working with Visa and Visa issuing banks to ensure that the duplicate transactions have been reversed and appropriate credits have been posted to cardholder accounts. All reversal transactions have now been issued, and should appear on customers’ credit card and debit card accounts within the next few days. We believe the majority of these reversals have already posted to accounts. If you continue to have problems with your credit or debit card account after this reversal period, including issues relating to card fees or charges, we encourage you to contact your card issuing bank.

We deeply regret any inconvenience this may have caused customers.

The original story follows below.

A growing number of Coinbase customers are complaining that the cryptocurrency exchange withdrew unauthorized money out of their accounts. In some cases, this drained their linked bank accounts below zero, resulting in overdraft charges.

In a typical anecdote posted on Reddit, one user said they purchased Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin for a total of $300 on February 9th. A few days later, the transactions repeated five times for a total of $1,500, even though the user had not made any more purchases. That was enough to clear out this user's bank account, they said, resulting in fees.

"My bank account went from very comfortable to negatives balance, not to mention extra $5 charges, and overdraft fees," the user wrote. "As a result my rent check bounced, and my bank went further into negative for a NSF charge for $25. My landlord is not a nice person and is on my CASE and I have nothing to offer him. I am FREAKING OUT."

Coinbase representatives have been responding to similar complaints on Reddit for about two weeks, but the volume of complaints seems to have spiked over the last 24 hours. Similar complaints have popped up on forums and Twitter.

Source: The Verge


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday February 18 2018, @05:51PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday February 18 2018, @05:51PM (#639755) Homepage Journal

    So many times, $1,500 is the Minimum Balance. Not many people know this, a lot of our banks have a Minimum Balance for checking accounts. Your account goes below that, the bank gets a fee. This guy, maybe he paid $5. Sometimes it's $10. You go below zero, there's an overdraft fee, that one's much bigger. The bank is now LENDING you money. With ASTRONOMICAL interest. You call it not "responsible," you call it not "comfortable." Our wonderful banks call it GOOD BUSINESS, they call it VERY PROFITABLE. They call that their FAVORITE CUSTOMER.

    And cyber cash, this guy put some money into cyber cash. You call it "gambling," maybe you wanted him to leave his money in a checking account. And maybe you're right, maybe he would have been so much better off if he didn't pay those fees. If he didn't go below the Minimum Balance. But he doesn't make money by leaving it in a checking account. The interest, very little interest there. A lot of times it's zero percent. And my terrific Federal Reserve is still doing inflation. You know inflation, right? I don't drink coffee. But I think with $1,500 you can get the biggest coffee at Starbucks, you can get a trenta. You put that $1,500 in a checking account for a few years, it's still $1,500. They call it $1,500. But you go to get coffee and you can't get a trenta with that anymore. Maybe you can only get a tall -- and you won't get a "Merry Christmas" with that. They call it a tall, I call it VERY SMALL, it's like the coffee you get for a baby, don't get your baby started on coffee, it's highly addictive. Inflation, right?

    Did you see, somebody who put $1 in Bitcoin in 2010 and held it, that Bitcoin was worth $4 million in December 2017. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! rt.com/business/411713-bitcoin-value-now-and-then [rt.com]

    Somebody who put $1 in his checking account in 2010 and kept it there, that's worth how much? You work that one out.

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