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posted by martyb on Wednesday February 21 2018, @02:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the To-the-Moon,-Alice^W-BigelowTo-the-Moon! dept.

Bigelow Aerospace has created a spinoff company that will manage its orbital space stations, and has announced plans for an inflatable module that would be even larger than the B330:

Bigelow Aerospace — the Las Vegas-based company manufacturing space habitats — is starting a spinoff venture aimed at managing any modules that the company deploys into space. Called Bigelow Space Operations (BSO), the new company will be responsible for selling Bigelow's habitats to customers, such as NASA, foreign countries, and other private companies. But first, BSO will try to figure out what kind of business exists exactly in lower Earth orbit, the area of space where the ISS currently resides.

Bigelow makes habitats designed to expand. The densely packed modules launch on a rocket and then inflate once in space, providing more overall volume for astronauts to roam around. The company already has one of its prototype habitats in orbit right now: the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, or BEAM, which has been attached to the International Space Station since 2016. The BEAM has proven that Bigelow's expandable habitat technology not only works, but also holds up well against the space environment.

Now, Bigelow is focusing on its next space station design: the B330. The habitat is so named since it will have 330 cubic meters (or nearly 12,000 cubic feet) of interior volume when expanded in space. That's about one-third the volume provided by the ISS. Bigelow hopes to launch two B330s as early as 2021, on top of the United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rockets, and the company even has plans to put a B330 around the Moon. After that, Bigelow has bigger plans to create a single station with 2.4 times the entire pressurized volume of the ISS, the company announced today. Such a huge station will need to be constructed in an entirely new manufacturing facility that Bigelow plans to build — though the company hasn't decided on a location yet.

Bigelow's BEAM is currently attached to the ISS and has a volume of about 16 cubic meters, which has been described as that of "a large closet with padded white walls". The B330 will have 330 cubic meters of pressurized volume. The newly proposed module is called the BA 2100, or "Olympus", with 2,250 cubic meters of volume, compared to the ISS's total 931 cubic meters. The mass of the BA 2100 could range from 65 to 100 metric tons, likely requiring a super-heavy launcher such as the SLS Block 1B/2 or SpaceX's BFR.

Also at Space News, Motherboard, and Space.com.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:05PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:05PM (#641206)

    Well, for storage, ok, but for humans to hang out? No way! Make the thing transparent, and then we'll talk. The damn thing has got to have some windows at least. What's the point of going all the way up there if you can't enjoy the view? It's the best advertisement you could hope for. And no, video cameras and big screens won't cut it.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:13PM (13 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:13PM (#641209) Journal

    The ISS has this module [wikipedia.org], which has been "compared to the cockpit window of the Millennium Falcon."

    BEAM, B330, etc. are modular and will be attached to other modules. Getting a huge amount of space station volume with a low mass and number of launches is very valuable. Maybe you don't need a window in the part you're going to be sleeping in if that's just going to douse you with more radiation.

    You could have the equivalent of the Ender's Game Battle Room using a BA 2100. Compared to the relatively cramped corridors of the ISS.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:37PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:37PM (#641218) Journal

      Maybe you don't need a window in the part you're going to be sleeping in if that's just going to douse you with more radiation.

      People are going to PAY to get up there, then we're going to cheat them of their fair share of radiation? So, what are we going to do, if they insist on their ration of radiation? Just charge them extra?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:58PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:58PM (#641229) Journal

        We can put them in the room next to the fission reactor core.

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      • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:58PM

        by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:58PM (#641231)

        That's what the orbital resorts are for - you don't want rubbernecking tourists clogging up a serious space station anyway, people are trying to get work done.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday February 21 2018, @05:39PM (8 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @05:39PM (#641272)

      > Compared to the relatively cramped corridors of the ISS.

      In zero-G, cramped corridors are a very useful feature.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:06PM (7 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:06PM (#641284) Journal

        You just need the NASA equivalent of the Ruyi Jingu Bang [wikipedia.org] or the Grab It [freakinreviews.com] in order to pull or push people who are stuck floating in the center of the module.

        Hazing on the Bigelow Space Station: push/pull someone into the middle of the module until they are barely moving in any direction. Then see what they have to do to get to one of the walls.

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        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @07:10PM (6 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @07:10PM (#641327)

          peeing would work. although I guess throwing up would be more spectacular; and probably much more likely, not that I think about it.

          • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday February 21 2018, @07:58PM (5 children)

            by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @07:58PM (#641364)

            Always keep white pepper in your pocket for emergencies.

            • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:23PM (4 children)

              by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:23PM (#641440) Journal

              Great, a cloud of pepper and snot suspended around the room in microgravity.

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              • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:47PM (3 children)

                by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:47PM (#641467)

                While that's unquestionably better than what the parent was proposing, I have to agree it's pretty bad.
                Astronauts in the ISS are surrounded by a cloud of their own skin flakes, hairs, and other excretions. There's a reason it smells nasty, and has fans constantly circulating air around and through filters.

                There's pretty good money to be made by the inventor of Space Roomba.

    • (Score: 2) by el_oscuro on Thursday February 22 2018, @03:18AM

      by el_oscuro (1711) on Thursday February 22 2018, @03:18AM (#641597)

      In Kerbal Space program, I have a contract to deploy a space station to Ike orbit with that exact module. I always wondered where it came from.

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  • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:56PM (2 children)

    by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @04:56PM (#641227)

    > What's the point of going all the way up there if you can't enjoy the view?
    Hmm, let's see...
    The many advantages of free-fall.
    Lag-reducing proximity to telepresence robotics working outside
    The relative ease of traveling to other non-terrestrial locations

    >And no, video cameras and big screens won't cut it.
    Why ever not? Unlike earthly scenes, where binocular vision and other parallax effects are observable, everything in space, except the space-station itself, will be much too far away to for there to be any observable difference between different viewpoints. The only difference between a window and high-resolution screen behind a lens that puts its focal plane at infinity, will be the fact that the field of view on a TV screen doesn't change with your motion (i.e. there are no parallax effects with the "window frame") Though actually, there are a number of existing technologies that enable that as well. It's really easy for only one observer, you just have to track where their head is and update the display accordingly. Multiple observers require a screen capable of displaying different images to each observer, which is currently considerably more expensive. Or pseudo-holographic displays, which are mostly still in the early prototype stages.

    That's not to say an occasional observation dome wouldn't be a worthy addition, for psychological effects if nothing else, but you don't want that dramatically higher radiation dose, nor the much greater risk of vacuum breach, anyplace where you spend significant amounts of time. Basically, everything outside the space station is trying to kill you, and it's doing so with the implacable patience of the infinite void. Unless you're currently in the mood to contemplate that void, you want as much distance between you and it as possible.

    Besides which, very few people are going to go to space for the view. Aside from the Earth, you can very nearly the same view by lying out in a field on a dark night far less expensively, and with a lot more luxuries. If you want a view, go to a space resort - they'll probably all have observation bubbles attached to the far hatch of your inflatable room, along with a sign warning you of the dangers of spending too much time in the bubble, or leaving the door to it open. At least assuming you sprang for the deluxe suite, otherwise you'll just have to float on down to the cafe or one of the other public observation domes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @08:21PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @08:21PM (#641380)

      Unlike earthly scenes, where binocular vision and other parallax effects are observable, everything in space, except the space-station itself, will be much too far away to for there to be any observable difference between different viewpoints.

      Oh? You've been? Or did you at least ask someone who has? Personally I think you don't know what you're talking about.

      • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Thursday February 22 2018, @04:11AM

        by Immerman (3985) on Thursday February 22 2018, @04:11AM (#641614)

        As I recall, the physics of the human eye limits perceptual distinction to things within several dozen miles - this side of the horizon. Earth is too far away for stereo vision to make a difference, and there's unlikely to be anything else big enough to see anywhere near that close to you.

        Sure, you could break out the binoculars, but that's what a genuine observation dome is for. Windows are there for looking out of when you want to look somewhere else.

        And consider - while actual screens have a great many limitations, augmented reality is fast approaching the point where you can easily paint a fully stereoscopic image "through" any wall or imaginary divider you like. No reason you couldn't strategically deploy cameras around the outside of the station, and virtually paint the walls transparent. Still not quite the same, but it'd be suicide to work in an office that really had that kind of view. And you can always float over to the the observation dome when you want to see it "for real". You can even wave to your friends back in the office, even if you can't see if they wave back.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:02PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:02PM (#641426) Journal

    Modules without windows are actually best for humans. Either for hanging out. Or copulating. Fewer non-inflatable modules can have windows. People visit them for a great view when they are not otherwise occupied.

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