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Journal by The Mighty Buzzard
In case you haven't heard, FreeBSD has a new code of conduct that's seemingly pulled straight from the shit-spewing face of a blue-haired intersectional feminist.
Me, I refuse to contribute to any coding project with a code of conduct designed to protect people of one political ideology from those who disagree with them. They're of course welcome to do what they like but they'll be doing it without my help in any way.
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"By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began
to suspect "Hungry."
-- a Larson cartoon
(Score: 3, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Wednesday February 21 2018, @09:36PM (6 children)
Some people are scared because they've historically been demonized and brutalized -- not online, not with words, but with bats and knives and guns. And now that gay/tranny/other non-majority folks aren't being frightened into silence, they are still afraid and want to make sure that doesn't happen any more.
Some people are scared because the folks, who used to be beaten into silence by a small minority of violent scumbags, aren't so silent anymore.
And while they wouldn't go out and beat these people to death, they think they may be a bad influence or that they are trying to impose their beliefs onto them. Or even worse, that they will be judged and found wanting in some "meaningful" way by those whose concept of appropriateness differs from theirs.
The rest of us are caught in the middle.
Personally, I'd rather see these codes of conduct be quite simple. Perhaps something along the lines of Wheaton's Law [knowyourmeme.com].
I don't (and won't) reject quality software projects just because they adopt a code of conduct, as its the software that's important, not the personalities of those who are involved.
Rather, I take the position that Heinlein [wikiquote.org] put forth quite succinctly:
If my words or actions are found to be offensive to some, I can't control that. I can only control what I say and do. And I have no interest in trying to tell others what specific things they should or shouldn't do. Again, Heinlein [goodreads.com] is quite succinct about this:
I am not telling anyone to do anything specific, rather I'm laying out my thoughts on this, somewhat fraught (I'm not sure why), subject. My hope is that it will spur thought and perhaps even discussion.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:08PM (5 children)
Bullshit. Nobody is scared. Scared people do not seek out violence. SJWs do. "I don't feel safe" from the mouth of an SJW means "I dislike what you say and want your right and ability to say it removed by force.".
As for Wesley? Fuck Wesley. He's the biggest shithead on Twitter, which is really saying something.
Yet you find it perfectly reasonable that they not only do but go as far as to tell others what they should say or even think? Sorry but I am not backing your first Heinlein quote on this. I will not accept rule by the most discriminatory, bigoted, authoritarian scumbags on the planet.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:40PM (1 child)
That's bold talk from a one-eyed fat man [youtube.com], Buzzard.
Aside from Wil Wheaton (I only referred to the idea "don't be a dick," not anything else -- try to keep things straight), please tell me who (individuals, not your broad brush against those who you "dislike what [they] say and want [their] right and ability to say it removed by force." and what specific acts you decry and detest) are these "SJWs"?
If you are unable or unwilling to make anything other than vague and unsupportable pronouncements, I have no choice but to find your argument lacking in rigor.
That's not really a big deal to me because
So go ahead and set whatever ground rules you think appropriate and I will act according to mine. See? Wasn't that easy?
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 5, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:52PM
Re: Wesley, that's what I was talking about as well. The irony of a prick of such gargantuan proportions being its author is staggering.
Specifically? They're thought police, they're violent as hell, they're intolerant as all fuck, they're the biggest bigots in the west of every variety of bigotry, they utterly destroy the hypocrisy scale, they're authoritarians of the worst variety, they're against free speech, they're against freedom of association, they're in favor of persecuting others by all legal and illegal means for the crime of disagreeing with them, and now I'm tired of thinking about things that piss me off. Google them.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:43PM (2 children)
BuzzBro, thou art over-reacting, again. We are not trying to tell people what to think, we are just trying to show them how! You, too, could be a suave gentleperson of high moral character and impeccable social skills! No one is forcing anything on you, you are just ostracizing yourself from all polite company, so that you are left with SoylentNews, Ethanol_fueled and Runaway5678, and that curmudgeonly aristarchus.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday February 21 2018, @10:54PM (1 child)
I'm fine with that. You can have a far more intelligent discussion with EF than you can with any SJW.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday February 24 2018, @12:51AM
[laughing] I've noticed that. Speaking therewhich, where the hell is EF? this discussion is way too rational without him!
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.