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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday February 27 2018, @01:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-what's-for-dinner dept.

The U.S. Cattlemen's Association has asked the U.S. Department of Agriculture to develop an official definition for terms like "meat" and "beef", as plant-based alternatives to meats continue to grow in popularity and lab-grown/cultured meat may be coming soon:

Companies like Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat are combining plant-based ingredients and science, rather than animals, to create fake-meat burgers and other products that taste like the real thing.

Now U.S. Cattlemen's Association is looking to draw a line in the sand. The association launched what could be the first salvo in a long battle against plant-based foods. Earlier this month, the association filed a 15-page petition with the U.S. Department of Agriculture calling for an official definition for the term "beef," and more broadly, "meat."

"While at this time alternative protein sources are not a direct threat to the beef industry, we do see improper labeling of these products as misleading," said Lia Biondo, the association's policy and outreach director. "Our goal is to head off the problem before it becomes a larger issue."

[...] While these foods are commonly dubbed "fake meat," there's a little more to the meat-substitute market than that. The Good Food Institute, which advocates a sustainable food supply, breaks it down into two categories: clean meat and plant-based meat. Clean meat refers to "meat" grown in a lab from a small amount of animal stem cells. This kind of meat isn't on the market yet, but it's in development. Plant-based meat is anything that mimics traditional meat but is made mainly using plant ingredients.

Here's an idea: define "meat" for the Cattlemen's Association, then tax it with an exemption for "lab-grown meat".

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Ayn Anonymous on Tuesday February 27 2018, @07:48AM (5 children)

    by Ayn Anonymous (5012) on Tuesday February 27 2018, @07:48AM (#644525)

    People never see the bigger picture.
    Stupidity ?
    A board nailed on there forehead ?

    What is *real* meat ?
    *real* meat comes from an animal that eat exactly what evolution has it driven to eat.
    And it lives in an environment and lifestyle that is typical for its species.

    That means for example for cows:
    - Eating mostly perennial prairie grasses with many, many herbs some flower and some tree and bush leaves.
    - Walking a lot in a migratory lifestyle.
    We the hairless white apes HAD eaten this real meat since 1+ million years. It has greatly supported our evolutionary development.

    So, a bunch of Idiots who are not even able to COUNT the compounds in the food of a cow, let alone understand all the compounds.
    These Idiots not even understand the exact mechanisms of photosynthesis.

    Now these ignorant Idiots want grow something in a growing media consisting 3-5 compounds and think that would be enough to feed the hairless white apes that are used to real meat without negative long term consequences ?
    Keep believing that and eat that shit they call food.
    I renounce.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 27 2018, @08:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 27 2018, @08:16AM (#644528)
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Aiwendil on Tuesday February 27 2018, @11:09AM (1 child)

    by Aiwendil (531) on Tuesday February 27 2018, @11:09AM (#644560) Journal

    *real* meat comes from an animal that eat exactly what evolution has it driven to eat.
    And it lives in an environment and lifestyle that is typical for its species.

    So, you mean if we would round up at least half of all cattle on this planet and put them to pasture in marshlands then all cattle living on plains wouldn't be real meat, sweet :)

    The phrase "what evolution has it driven to eat" is kinda weird, either it means "whatever doesn't kill the animal prior to reproduction" or it means "if we feed it stuff that evolved after the animal did or at another place it isn't meat" (maize is a cultivar (about 10k yrs old) from americas, soy is native of east asia, potatoes is from americas, rye and oats are examples of vavilovian mimicry and are pretty recent as well).

    Which sense did you mean it in?

    Oh, also, we havn't been eating cows for that long either, cows (cattle) is the name of the domesticated subspecies, and that domestication happened about 10k years ago (in turkey it seems). (Oh, and domestication is pretty much the definition of violating the typical lifestyle and enviornment)

    These Idiots not even understand the exact mechanisms of photosynthesis.

    Go ahead.. Post me the exact mechanism of photosynthesis, I'm looking forward to brushing up on the CAM and C4 variants, also remember to not limit yourself to phototrophy since you since you specified the exact mechanism of photosynthesis.
    (Actually hope my snarkiness will backfire here, I really look forward to reading up on this subject)

    • (Score: 2) by Ayn Anonymous on Tuesday February 27 2018, @06:41PM

      by Ayn Anonymous (5012) on Tuesday February 27 2018, @06:41PM (#644717)

      You still not see my point.
      You probably can but won't because it would disturb your view of the world.
      > So, you mean if we would round up at least half of all cattle on this planet and put them to pasture in marshlands then all cattle living on plains wouldn't be real meat, sweet :)
      0.5 to 1 billion hairless white apes would be the appropriate number of us for this planet. It would be so easy to get to this number if people would not jut fuck without a brain.
      No problem to give the animals the space there used to.

      We are not even close to understand exactly how our biosphere works.
      We need to reduce the complexity to a super small isolated tiny little bit to be able to fuck with it.
      But hey there is no reason not to fuck with tiny little bits we think to understand of the whole thing.
      We once know DDT is harmless. And once know Asbestos is harmless.
      And cross kingdom gene splicing is harmless.....

  • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Tuesday February 27 2018, @03:31PM

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 27 2018, @03:31PM (#644644) Journal

    Your post has a pretty high drivel content, but I modded it "interesting" because I am thinking about subscribing to your newsletter.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 27 2018, @05:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 27 2018, @05:11PM (#644676)

    Sorry I stopped at your user name, randians are known to have defective brains.