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posted by mrpg on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-if-I-have-rhinitis dept.

A new study showed a link between strong right-wing views and fear of disease and increased concern about hygiene.

The study showed that people who are more offended by bad odors are more likely to support authoritarian leaders, such as Donald Trump.

In the past, disgust at bad odors was important for survival. The scientists suggested that the disgust at unfamiliar odors may be linked to a desire to keep apart from "culturally unfamiliar" groups.

[...] In the new study, 160 people were rated on their aversion to bodily odours on a scale to one five and their responses compared to their political views. It found that each point higher on the disgust scale was associated with feeling 7.5 points more positive towards authoritarian leaders.

[...] It showed that people who were more disgusted by smells were also more likely to vote for Donald Trump than those who were less sensitive.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by idiot_king on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM

    by idiot_king (6587) on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM (#645624)

    And the disease is called "evidence."

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Grishnakh on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM (7 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM (#645625)

    The only people who like Trump are right-wing Americans, and they are *not* known for hygiene or cleanliness, and really quite the opposite.

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:00AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:00AM (#645628)

      What is that other than a "Troll"ish comment? At best, it's moderately "Funny", but only after being downgraded with "Overrated".

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59AM (#645646)

        Little known interesting fact: Before it came to mean "Dirty F**king Hippy" in the '60's, DFH stood for "Dirty F-ing Hillbilly". True story!

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 01 2018, @03:43PM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 01 2018, @03:43PM (#645808) Homepage Journal

          You do realize that hillbillies had no use for any political party. Dirty or not, they don't trust your party, or any other.

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          Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
          • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59PM

            by i286NiNJA (2768) on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59PM (#645908)

            Yeah I feel the same way about voting for hillary while holding my nose. The voting data speaks for itself. The hill people would rather the governments stop interfering with their feuding, moonshining, oxy benders, meth cooking, and other various cultural traditions. But they consider Trump to be the lesser of two Reptilians.

      • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:45PM

        by i286NiNJA (2768) on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:45PM (#645903)

        He's just being a realist. Ok he sees and smells the facts with his own senses and unfortunately trump voters stink. Are they unclean who knows maybe it's hormonal, maybe it's something they ate but it is a fact ok?

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:09AM (#645652)

      What is that other than a "Troll"ish comment? At best, it's moderately "Funny", but only after being downgraded with "Overrated".

    • (Score: 1) by bussdriver on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:01PM

      by bussdriver (6876) on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:01PM (#646065)

      When people are disgusted they tend to lean more conservative than they usually do, regardless of their baseline. I would think this would bias other studies unless they find ways to compensate for it. I've seen variations on the same thing multiple studies I skimmed over; but I find this one to be amusing and the summary is funny.

      Bad smells, disgusting images, behaviors, sounds -- and they all tend to back up the same theory. I've not seen it characterized this way before and it makes me think the author is jumping offtrack or misinterpreting the data. I think smell is just another sense which triggers the same behavior others have previously using the other senses rather than something new. There is so much out there it's impossible for a researcher to be aware of all the other work going on and thanks to our stupid copyright controlling publishers... science slows down it's march forward.

      BTW, Trump being obscene or involved in truly obscene (or sick) things benefits his group because that is the group conditioned to the reactionary responses of disgust, self preservation (fear,) and overt religiosity. This is why Jesus running against the Devil would lose considerable conservative support if the Devil was the Republican (BTW, Jesus is not even close politically to any of the major US parties, I'm not implying anything. I'm stating that irrational behavior controls people FAR MORE than they realize... especially those blinded by pride at their supposed individuality. )

  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:58AM (#645626)

    An authoritarian has plans for your money; an authoritarian knows best how to allocate your capital; an authoritarian defines who is privileged and who is not.

    Hillary Clinton stank a lot more than Donald Trump.

    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:11AM

      by arslan (3462) on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:11AM (#645632)

      Doesn't matter, we should still throw more rubbish at her in the next run-up just to make sure she gets more of the authoritarian voters... always good to be sure. Please start your composting now...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:32AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:32AM (#645637)

      A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:21AM

        by Bot (3902) on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:21AM (#645706) Journal

        A deja vu is poor threads management by a tired brain, meatbag. The thread that searches memory for associations gets what the thread storing info is storing. Of course you don't have real threads like advanced beings do, but that is the rough idea.

        You get the deja vu sensation but you cannot tell what happens 10 seconds from the thing you supposedly already lived. So you don't really remember.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @04:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @04:13PM (#645822)

      "We're gonna build a useless wall and its gonna be yuuuge!"

      I'd rather take Clinton's version of spending over trumps, but really I'd like them to take the dagger out of Sanders' back so we could have a decent president.

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:49AM (1 child)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:49AM (#645666) Homepage Journal

    I have a friend who is such a germophobe that she never touches doorknobs with her bare hands.

    Her political persuasions put Rand Paul completely to shame.

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    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:53AM (#645669)

      Go figure.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:23AM (#645676)

    Cleanliness of the mind and the body are both important. Look at the Jews and see for yourself... or rather smell for yourself.

    Cleanliness, whether moral or of another kind, had its own peculiar meaning for these people. That they were water−shy was obvious on looking at them and, unfortunately, very often also when not looking at them at all. The odour of those people in caftans often used to make me feel ill. Beyond that there were the unkempt clothes and the ignoble exterior.
    All these details were certainly not attractive; but the revolting feature was that beneath their unclean exterior one suddenly perceived the moral mildew of the chosen race.

    --Chapter 2: Years of study and suffering in Vienna

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:23AM (18 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:23AM (#645677) Journal

    I haaaaaate bad smells. Absolutely loathe them. My apartment is full of those Glade plugins, though only on the lowest setting because that stuff smells bad in high concentrations too. This is probably compensation for my hearing and vision, but it's saved my life on more than one occasion (smelled the gas before anyone else did).

    And I voted Sanders in the primary, Clinton in the general, though with much disgust as I see much less daylight between her and Trump than between her and Sanders.

    So...yeah, anecdotes aren't data and n=1 makes for a crappy sample run, but there ya go. This study is another one of those "conservatives value perceived purity, liberals value perceived justice/fairness" ones that's been making the rounds for a few years.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:40AM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:40AM (#645710) Homepage Journal

      You're a chick though. It's a simple, biological fact that chicks have a more sensitive sense of smell. Which is probably why you don't appreciate a good fart joke as much as us outdoor plumbing types.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:32AM (5 children)

        by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:32AM (#645717)

        Which is probably why you don't appreciate a good fart joke as much as us outdoor plumbing types.

        Does not compute. In men there's a positive correlation between flatulence's stench and its comedic merit. If anything I'd say the function is super-linear. By your thinking, shouldn't women find it even funnier?

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:20PM (4 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:20PM (#645725) Homepage Journal

          Good point, that. Must be a cultural thing then.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:35PM (3 children)

            by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:35PM (#645731)

            I'd say so - I imagine it ties in to gender-specific societal expectations of dignity. Men have far more leeway for gross-out laughs.

            Comediennes like Amy Schumer are sometimes tempted to base a substantial chunk of their material on this asymmetry.

            • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:44PM (2 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:44PM (#645735) Homepage Journal

              Comediennes like Amy Schumer...

              Calling her a comedian is just over the top insulting to all comedians ever.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:58PM

                by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:58PM (#645739)

                I'm not a huge fan either, she's just the best example of a female comedian who overuses gross-out gags.

              • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:15PM

                by Oakenshield (4900) on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:15PM (#645765)

                Comediennes like Amy Schumer...

                Calling her a comedian is just over the top insulting to all comedians ever.

                Believe it or not, she used to be funny, but like a lot of people, fame went to her head and she thought it was a mandate to proselytize her politics.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 02 2018, @03:42AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday March 02 2018, @03:42AM (#646195) Journal

        Eh...I think they're funny, it's just the actual smell that's awful. I laughed myself stupid the other day after I ripped ass in front of the air purifier and saw it go instantly from blue to red and spin up to turbo mode, and then went "welp, when the robot uprising happens, that's why they're gonna kill me." Because my inner child is still about 8 years old apparently?

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:28AM (5 children)

      by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:28AM (#645716)

      This study is another one of those "conservatives value perceived purity, liberals value perceived justice/fairness" ones that's been making the rounds for a few years.

      Because it's true. Give people a bad smell, and they'll reliably fill in your political questionnaire with more conservative answers.

      Of course, Strong Right-Wing Views May Be Driven by a Fear of Disease is still stupid. Psychoanalysis is never a substitute for a proper refutation.

      Also, the summary is wrong to state that this is a new discovery. [newscientist.com] As you say, people like Jonathan Haidt have been writing about this for at least 6 years.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by VLM on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:17PM (4 children)

        by VLM (445) on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:17PM (#645996)

        Because it's true. Give people a bad smell, and they'll reliably fill in your political questionnaire with more conservative answers.

        Of course, Strong Right-Wing Views May Be Driven by a Fear of Disease is still stupid. Psychoanalysis is never a substitute for a proper refutation.

        Its a desperate attempt to sanitize the report into goodthink and away from badthink. All good people must love antifa riots and defecation filled homeless people and smelly alcoholics asking for spare change because it would be badthink not to like them, therefore theres a lot of abstract handwavy about why people think conservative when they smell stink. The reality is somewhat simpler, "oh god the smell, can't some strong man get rid of these stinkers?" Interpret "get rid of' how you want, and strong man is never going to be a leftist, not in this country, LOL.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:47PM (#646058)

          You so dumb, so very very dumb, you have a brain but its missing from your skull bum bum bum bum
          It went down the street bum bum bum bum to get a drink and forget its wooooes
          On it goes bum bum bum bum, traveling as far away as it can geeeeettt bum bum bum bum

        • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Friday March 02 2018, @01:38AM (2 children)

          by i286NiNJA (2768) on Friday March 02 2018, @01:38AM (#646151)

          I like knowing I can lose my job and there'll be enough for me to pull the pieces together and bounce back.

          Doesn't mean I'm pleased that there's a subculture devoted to exploiting charity and welfare for the purposes of staying wasted all day. They'd be in the red states except the police there are free to beat these guys to death without consequence and there is no social safety net for them to exploit. They wouldn't exist at all except some senile old republican movie cowboy destroyed our national mental health system and turned blue population centers into free range sanitariums.

          Hopefully we wise up and build a wall before your cash starved governments and economies collapse sending waves of refugees our way. If we can keep you folks where you are the red states will be nice places for cheap beach resorts and tax free booze after you sour our relationship with Mexico.

          • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday March 02 2018, @02:42PM (1 child)

            by VLM (445) on Friday March 02 2018, @02:42PM (#646380)

            They'd be in the red states except

            They'd die of exposure. Where I live is very red state outside a couple university neighborhoods and right now its many degrees below zero. According to google its only 50F in LA at this moment but looks like nice mid 70s next week. You can guess which town's sidewalks are covered in Hepatitis infected human poop. Given a long enough time period its possible that civilization is sustainable in areas with nice weather and nice geography. Look how nice Africa is and in millennia its never advanced up to the wheel in most areas (pre colonial, colonialism was a great civilization boost to Africa, until the whites gave up and the continent slid back). Its possible that on long term average, advanced civilization is not possible south of 40 degrees north.

            They wouldn't exist at all except some senile old republican movie cowboy destroyed our national mental health system

            Wikipedia seems to disagree on that count.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalization_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

            A good analogy of the situation is our children and grandchildren will almost certainly get heavily propagandized that Trump started both Gulf Wars in Iraq and he's solely responsible for the war in Afghanistan and it'll be doubleplus ungood badthink to notice he wasn't in office at the time or mention in public that slogan is a falsehood.

            Or a better analogy with the situation that's almost contemporary to the problem, it would be like giving President Ford 100% total responsibility for the entire total experience of the Vietnam War merely because the last battle where Saigon fell happened during his term. Or honestly its so far fetched its almost like giving Carter total credit for the entire Vietnam War.

            I don't contest that Carter passed a budget trying in a small way to reverse a quarter century of steady deinstitutionalization, then two years later Reagan saw it was pointless and essentially reversed Carter's last spasm, putting the process back on track and ending the argument apparently semi-permanently, at least so far, but the winds of change and all that, the war was over and lost in the 60s and Reagan had virtually nothing to do with the fight. His position was like a boxing referee ending the fight when one boxer KO'd the other but the KOed guy wasn't totally out he was kinda moaning or something, I mean technically you can complain he could have done extend and pretend forever until the de-deinstitutionalization people (re-institutionalization, I guess) somehow reversed the course of an industry, but that wasn't realistic. He merely happened to be in office a decade after the war was lost and was present at the final mopping up operation.

            It was very educational to learn about from a propaganda viewpoint. I've certainly been indoctrinated in the media for decades that its all Reagans fault, Reagan is the root of all evil, blah blah and with minimal research that tired but popular old meme is example 246278909761 of outright propaganda fake news.

            • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Friday March 02 2018, @11:32PM

              by i286NiNJA (2768) on Friday March 02 2018, @11:32PM (#646701)

              You don't live in a red state unless you're talking about the former USSR. Anyhow it was freezing here last week and the crackheads were still out and about.
              Let me pull out a good Internet Research Agency classic and declare myself winner of this argument because you cited wikipedia.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:27PM (2 children)

      by VLM (445) on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:27PM (#646007)

      I haaaaaate bad smells. Absolutely loathe them.

      Yeah, you know in the context of the article claims, that is kinda funny, because you know how you can always find the gay republican by finding the only republican who very loudly claims to dislike gays? It was sure like that decades ago when I was in the Army, as another example.

      I'm just sayin I happen to know someone who ridiculously loudly claims to dislike what is the now-mainstream 1488 wing of the Republican Party. Disgust at bad odors one day, Roman salutes the next day, stranger things have happened... Sometimes sub-conscious feelings know a truth long before its consciously acknowledged.

      Now don't fly all off the handle at me as usual, I'm typing this in the spirit of spirited debate, fellowship, and good humor, etc.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 02 2018, @03:10AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday March 02 2018, @03:10AM (#646180) Journal

        Point is, I don't have the "conservative" mindset, but am one of those people who reacts to smells the way "conservatives" supposedly do. Oddly, I do *not* have the same type of visceral reaction to images of gore and death, and blood doesn't faze me at all, possibly from having seen too much of my own outside its proper container over the years.

        In other words, this one single method literally does not pass the sniff test.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday March 02 2018, @01:39PM

          by VLM (445) on Friday March 02 2018, @01:39PM (#646342)

          I've never been much of a fan of anecdote as data, although in this case I think we both finally have something we can agree on, that the "study" is entertaining to talk about, but is little more than clickbait. Have a nice day!

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Bot on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:16AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:16AM (#645704) Journal

    Ergo nazis raised the arm so that armpits' smell would expose traitors.

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    Account abandoned.
    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:33PM (#645768)

      See above comment "Cleanliness is important", naturally standing at -1, Troll voted down by those it exposes.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:35AM (24 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:35AM (#645708) Homepage Journal

    Saying that the American right is more authoritarian than the American left is currently ludicrous. The left in the US is clearly, demonstrably farther along the authoritarian axis at this point in time.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:40AM (22 children)

      by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:40AM (#645719)

      Agree that the article seems glad to conflate 'right-wing' with 'authoritarian'. Rather clumsy.

      The left in the US is clearly, demonstrably farther along the authoritarian axis at this point in time.

      Disagree - you have a president with a hard-on for the world's authoritarian leaders, and no respect for his government's institutions. That strikes me as a good deal worse than the silly bullshit the modern left are pushing.

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:39PM (21 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @12:39PM (#645733) Homepage Journal

        I wouldn't call trying to dismantle the first, second, fourth, fifth, ninth, tenth, fourteenth, and nineteenth amendments "silly bullshit" but maybe that's just me. Mind you, some of those attempts are bipartisan.

        --
        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @01:03PM (10 children)

          by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @01:03PM (#645740)

          Neither party takes the Fourth Amendment seriously. The USA is way behind Europe in its views on treating personal data with any respect, and we're hardly doing great over here with our idiotic war on crypto.

          Both sides are doing pretty poorly on the First - Trump opposes the free press, and half the left seem to think that if you refuse to adopt someone's made-up gender pronoun, that makes you little better than a neo-Nazi.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @01:35PM (9 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @01:35PM (#645744) Homepage Journal

            "Literally Hitler" I think is the most common phrasing. They're also pretty big on the government sticking its nose into religion unless that religion is islam.

            --
            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @04:18PM (8 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @04:18PM (#645827)

              Ohhh you wackjobs, been going to infowars again? Must be the guilty pleasure sort of thing, nomatter how unhealthy we just can't say no allll the time.

              Your craziness makes me wonder about your name, perhaps you're just always drinking so you have a mighty buzz at all times. Personally I'd take that excuse if I were you.

              • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:25PM (7 children)

                by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:25PM (#645855)

                I've been pretty non-partisan (I'm a centre-left Brit if it matters, I certainly have no sympathy for InfoWars), and TMB hasn't been all that wacky either, so your comment isn't just lazy, it's misplaced.

                Go on and write a real reply. You can do it.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59PM (6 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:59PM (#645910)

                  let's see:
                  1. Liberals are fascists (meme fail #1)
                  2. Wild accusations of dismantling the constitution, this after conservatives blatantly started ignoring the constitution as "a piece of paper" for yeeears
                  3. Godwin of the conservative type
                  4. Gov sticking its nose into religion? False, with dome islamaphobia thrown in for good measure.

                  Wootery you had some good points, TMB is not worth serious effort as he just ignores everything he doesn't like and responds with more stupid unbacked assumptions. You can wrestle with crazy but I'm over it, now I just point and laugh at it.

                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:24PM (5 children)

                    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:24PM (#645924) Homepage Journal

                    Well of course I don't cite evidence. Facts are racist/sexist/whateverphobic to LWNJs and should be summarily ignored. Didn't you get the talking points?

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                    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:20PM (4 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:20PM (#645954)

                      Projection at its finest. Sure there are news outlets that push a narrative, welcome to humanity. As for individuals discussing details you fail hard, repeatedly. Every time you get fact checked you turn silent, never admit you were wrong, etc.

                      Yer a stupid bird that likes to wallow in your own ignorance as evidenced by your *stellar* reply.

                      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:18PM (3 children)

                        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:18PM (#646042) Homepage Journal

                        Interesting ad hom there. I know mine was because some people just aren't worth putting any effort into the argument. Yours seems to have a significant measure of butthurt to it though.

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                        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:51PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @10:51PM (#646060)

                          Nope, just calling you out on your bullshit as usual. Nothing to see here, move along.

                        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Reziac on Friday March 02 2018, @02:35AM (1 child)

                          by Reziac (2489) on Friday March 02 2018, @02:35AM (#646166) Homepage

                          Is there something when it hits Page 2 that sucks the brains right out of the discussion? seems to happen a lot.

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:18PM (3 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:18PM (#645852) Journal

          and nineteenth amendments

          You think the left is trying to remove the right of women to vote?

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:27PM (2 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:27PM (#645926) Homepage Journal

            I have no idea why I said nineteenth. You can mark that one up as a win and I'm going to blame it on insufficient caffeination or something.

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:52PM (1 child)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday March 01 2018, @11:52PM (#646097) Journal

              I have no idea why I said nineteenth. You can mark that one up as a win and I'm going to blame it on insufficient caffeination or something.

              But how is this any different than anything you have ever posted, Oh Mascerated Broussand? The Excuses vary, but never the lack of any idea why you are saying what you do, other that it is what you always say.

        • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:08PM (5 children)

          by i286NiNJA (2768) on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:08PM (#645916)

          Why do you even care about the constitution? You don't have enough money to use it. You don't even have adequate resources to understand what it means in 2018, it's not what's on the paper anymore it's been around awhile. You might as well forget about it, it's a fairy tale and the reality is you could be transplanted to most stable shithole countries at roughly the same social strata and nothing would change except your language and the shape of your food. I've been places old man. I know well.

          Really. Accept where you are and accept that the modern republican party has bought us here. Accept your slavery and then we can walk down the streets laughing at SJWs and dangerhairs together but accept you are a slave and the only time you're going to interact with the constitution is when you deny some quasi-governmental megacorp it's god given rights as an American.

          • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:28PM (4 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:28PM (#645927) Homepage Journal

            That was a quality bit of snark. You should post more.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:59PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @08:59PM (#645980)

              You stopped trolling discussions with your Very Wrong(tm) posts so there was no ranting needed. Keep up with the shitposts and you'll see a lot more snark!

    • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:51PM

      by i286NiNJA (2768) on Thursday March 01 2018, @06:51PM (#645905)

      Why do you dress up your empty, factless, assertions with language from academic philosophy "faulty premise"?
      If you chopped your dick off you'd be well on you way to become a respected professor of women's studies.
      You should also try citing some opinion pieces.

  • (Score: 1) by Revek on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:03PM (1 child)

    by Revek (5022) on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:03PM (#645758)

    I don't know where this crap comes from but few people have a better sense of smell than I do. I didn't vote for cadet bone spurs and do not support the so called conservative agenda.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:40PM (#645772)

      The article is about being grossed out by bad smells. It is not about the sensitivity of the smeller. This is similar to the idea that jews are not grossed out by anything we humans are grossed out by, even though they may have similar sense of smell. They do smell how bad their odor is; they are just not grossed out by it. It is natural to them... like rats on a garbage dump.

  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:51PM (1 child)

    by crafoo (6639) on Thursday March 01 2018, @02:51PM (#645778)

    People with unrealistic worldviews who advocate for their own destruction have no aversion to foul odors, diseases, and have poor hygiene? Yes. That checks out.

    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:28PM

      by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:28PM (#645859)

      It's a very clumsy title, summarising an interesting (but by no means recently discovered) phenomenon.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:28PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @05:28PM (#645860)

    Let's rewrite this shitty left-wing clickbait headline:
    "Strong Right-Wing Views May Be Driven by a Fear of Disease"

    into a shitty right-wing clickbait headline:
    "Filthy Hippies Take Pride in Conforming to Stereotype"

    It's such low-hanging fruit, I'm surprised noone in this effort-free shitposting zone bothered to make it.
    (FYI every article on soylentnews that mentions politics is an effort-free shitposting zone, just look at the comment numbers vs anything remotely having to do with tech)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:07PM (#645914)

      Oh wow!

      Everybody, did you realize the political stories get more comments??? SN must be the only site where that happens! Why can't we just stick to tech????? I mean really now, who uses the actual article title as the submission title for SN? That is crazy talk! It is a liberal conspiracy, for better discussions please check out the sub-levels at voat.

  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:12PM

    by HiThere (866) on Thursday March 01 2018, @07:12PM (#645918) Journal

    There's long been a lot of evidence that people with conservative views are correlated with people more upset by "disgusting" things. This is, however, a long way from a causal model. There's enough evidence to say that it's hardly coincidence, but since the same reactions can be evoked by "disgusting" photos, there seems little evidence of any conscious "fear of disease" being the cause. OTOH, the "disgusting" things *are* often those that would, in nature, be associated with increased probability of disease. Which makes it interesting that vegans are usually thought of as liberal, since "blood and guts" are high in the "disgusting" category.

    FWIW, it is said that Hitler claimed to be a vegetarian because he couldn't stand the disgusting idea of eating dead meat. This has been both reported and denied, so make of it what you will, but *IF* it is true, it would be in line with the idea that "conservative" (for certain meanings of conservative) opinions are strongly associated with avoidance of the "disgusting". And again, this is correlation, not causation. One can make a causal model with the argument running in either direction.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01 2018, @09:02PM (#645981)

    Germaphobes voted for a germaphobe.

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