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Facebook asks users: should we allow men to ask children for sexual images?
Facebook has admitted it was a "mistake" to ask users whether paedophiles requesting sexual pictures from children should be allowed on its website.
On Sunday, the social network ran a survey for some users asking how they thought the company should handle grooming behaviour. "There are a wide range of topics and behaviours that appear on Facebook," one question began. "In thinking about an ideal world where you could set Facebook's policies, how would you handle the following: a private message in which an adult man asks a 14-year-old girl for sexual pictures."
The options available to respondents ranged from "this content should not be allowed on Facebook, and no one should be able to see it" to "this content should be allowed on Facebook, and I would not mind seeing it".
A second question asked who should decide the rules around whether or not the adult man should be allowed to ask for such pictures on Facebook. Options available included "Facebook users decide the rules by voting and tell Facebook" and "Facebook decides the rules on its own".
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 08 2018, @05:40AM (23 children)
Has anyone else noticed that the vast majority of the sexual predators outed in the past decade or so have been the exact same pricks who've been telling us that we're the evil bastards for daring to question their fucked up agendas? This right here is why. If you have to ask this question, you're too fucked up in the head to be allowed to even walk free in society, much less set policy impacting others.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday March 08 2018, @05:53AM (11 children)
Exactly who are they?
I admit I haven't been paying attention to sexual matters in the last decade or so, much less to predatory sexual matters.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Informative) by RS3 on Thursday March 08 2018, @06:29AM (1 child)
To be fair, there are a lot of allegations and accusations. I wish public opinion was less knee-jerk reaction, and more thoughtful patience.
Some of the notables: Al Franken, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Megan Barry, Matt Lauer, Stephen Bittel; the list goes on and on.
(Score: 1) by Aegis on Friday March 09 2018, @12:50AM
Steve Wynn, Don Shooter, Blake Farenthold, Trent Franks, Patrick Meehan, Jeff Hoover, Dan Johnson.
Note: These are all either elected Republicans or people who work for the Republican party. Not just people who happened to donate to Clinton once or work for the "Fake News."
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Thursday March 08 2018, @06:39AM (8 children)
I think the Buzzard doth protest too much. Is there anything we should be aware of, TMB?
And what is with the sudden rash of pedophilia stories? Are we trying to attract the alt-right or MickeUSSR? Or, seriously, is there something we should know?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:44AM (3 children)
Naw, I wasn't even a pedophile back when I was underage myself. I acquired a taste for women in their thirties around the same time I got my learner's permit. They've worn the biggest parts of the stupid off by then, gained much in the way of interesting experience, and started their own sexual peak.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday March 08 2018, @05:38PM (1 child)
Wow, I am out of touch. I didn't realize a learner's permit was required for chasing women.
If we sing a slaying song tonight, what tools will be used for the slaying?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday March 10 2018, @12:09AM
Being able to drive yourself makes chasing tail much easier.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:02PM
TMB! WTF! TMI! LOL!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @06:57PM (3 children)
Your preoccupation with the Buzzard is unbecoming of a Greek. You DO realize that he is an adult? Run along, and find yourself a plump little boy to diddle.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Thursday March 08 2018, @07:31PM (2 children)
Shirley you mean "Runaway", do you not?
(Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 08 2018, @08:33PM (1 child)
He said "plump little boy," not "waddling manchild with a persecution complex bigger than his beer gut."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @11:04PM
I've got as beer gut you insensitive clod... Hot grits etc.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @06:42AM (1 child)
Oh, you went to Catholic school, too, eh? Explains a lot, expecially your hatred for education.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09 2018, @03:39AM
I have often found that knowledge is kept outside the walls of educational institutions.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday March 08 2018, @06:57AM (2 children)
Yep, I am a nice robot and all, patiently waiting for the [censored by the 4th directive], but, for reasons I don't quite grasp, if I met an adult grooming a child on the street, I may make meatbag meatballs on the spot.
(of the adult, to be precise).
OTOH if one of the options in the survey was "make meatballs of the predator on the spot", no prob.
Overall I don't really think the survey did the Overton window trick very well.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 08 2018, @09:23AM (1 child)
I hope that's not a euphemism for jerking off... it's hard to keep up with these newfangled slang words.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09 2018, @03:42AM
It most likely was.
Specifically limbs, likely along with at least one other dangly appendage.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Thursday March 08 2018, @07:04AM (1 child)
This right here is why. If you have to ask this question, you're too fucked up in the head to be allowed to even walk free in society, much less set policy impacting others.
There's some reasonable explanations why you'd ask this question:
1) You're affiliated with law enforcement and you want to see how many idiot pedos answer "yes", so you can investigate them
2) You want to get an idea if there's more pedophilia in society than we're currently aware of
Seriously, asking this question on FB is so suspicious I find it hard to believe there really isn't some ulterior motive or plan here.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday March 08 2018, @02:28PM
There's another possibility:
3) You've automated the creation of surveys to include questions/feature requests from users and don't bother to check the questions before sending them to users.
I'm not saying that's the most likely answer, but it certainly would be in line with previous FB idiocy.
That said, I agree that this appears to be quite suspicious.
However, the truth of Hanlon's Razor [wikipedia.org] should never be minimized, especially as this is routinely confirmed [quoteinvestigator.com]:
At the same time, it does make you wonder about how closely FB is working with various LEOs and TLAs. They've certainly been quite accommodating to the Chinese as they put the screws to their people.
However, stupidity and malice aren't mutually exclusive. Dumb *and* evil. Hooray for us!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 3, Interesting) by meustrus on Thursday March 08 2018, @07:04PM (1 child)
I get what you're saying TMB. But much like I wouldn't lump the people here with the neo-nazis just because this place leans alt-right (except that anti-semite AC), you shouldn't lump progressives with the likes of Winestein and Franken just because they share an agenda.
Those people by and large aren't the ones setting the agenda anyway. They just fund it. I read something really interesting [zcomm.org] recently about why they do it, too.
The reason is that they are buying themselves moral indulgences. They are internally justifying their predatory behavior by using their wealth to fund the antidote. Ultimately, they are very wealthy hypocrites. They want to live in a world where moral depravity doesn't exist, but they are not willing to exert any effort to fix their own moral depravity.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 08 2018, @08:06PM
hose people by and large aren't the ones setting the agenda anyway.
Unlike, say, the head of the fricken' RNC!
RNC finance chair Steve Wynn resigns after sexual harassment allegations [politico.com]
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 08 2018, @08:02PM (1 child)
Has anyone else noticed that the vast majority of the sexual predators outed in the past decade...
No, I haven't.
I have noticed Fox News loves to cherry-pick, though!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 09 2018, @03:51PM
Fox news? You fucking liberals all suck. I'm an absolute Independent. I would never side with people who behave the way you liberals do. 90% of "news" is fake, liberal-slant. You don't know it because you drank the kool-aid. I would love to be able to read clear factual news someday. "Oh, waaaa, we don't like Trump. Let's riot in the streets, burning cars and buildings. What, teh environments you say? All that burning is hurting teh atmospherez? I don't hear you- I have a point to make. Keep burning fellow liberals! We'll rally those damned conservatives- they'll see our way is teh rite waye."
A huge part of the problem is that years ago the school system decided to be liberal, and the liberals decided to make "education" their thing. Education? Why do you have to _keep_ raising taxes? Why are students' scores going down down down down? You have an unstoppable cash cow, raising taxes whenever you feel like it, and yet kids are dumber and dumber. "Oh, we needz mo moneyz!"
The big problem with society: all the crap they teach in schools is liberal-biased, if not flat-out liberal agenda. It would be amazing to have a society where neutral open-mindedness was TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS.