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posted by Fnord666 on Monday March 26 2018, @06:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the subtitles-provided-by-no-one dept.

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The founder of a site that provided fan-created subtitles has lost his appeal against a conviction for copyright infringement. In 2017 a Swedish court found that the unauthorized distribution of movie subtitles is a crime, sentencing the then 32-year-old to probation and a fine. The Court of Appeal has now largely upheld that earlier verdict.

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/founder-of-fan-made-subtitle-site-lose-copyright-infringement-appeal-180318/


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:53AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @12:53AM (#658725)

    Unfortunate, but legally speaking this is the correct ruling. Subtitles are a direct translation of the dialogue in the movie and, as such, are clearly a derivative work. Therefore, they cannot be distributed without permission of the copyright holder of the original work.

    Being a "derivative work" does NOT, by itself, mean that the copyright holder of the original has any rights over it. The question is, does fair use apply to subtitles or not? To me, it seems clear that it does, and the copyright holder of the movie should go pound sand. For example, the subtitles are a rather poor replacement for a movie, and I see no flourishing market of official subtitle-sellers that can be impacted by people providing them for free.

    Anyway, the court obviously thought otherwise, and therefore hearing-impaired people, foreigners, people trying to learn a language, and others that need those subtitles, should go fuck themselves.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:18AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @02:18AM (#658754)

    I don't believe Sweden has a "fair use" exception.

    • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:44PM

      by Pino P (4721) on Tuesday March 27 2018, @01:44PM (#658962) Journal

      In countries without a fair use exemption, how do movie reviews get published? Wouldn't the brief summary of a movie's plot in a review of said movie be a "derivative work" of said movie?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @05:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 27 2018, @05:47PM (#659060)

      > I don't believe Sweden has a "fair use" exception.

      Don't know about Sweden, however...

      Fair use is NOT an exception; fair use is a right, and copyright is an exception.