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posted by janrinok on Sunday June 22 2014, @07:35PM   Printer-friendly
from the chipski dept.

Announced shortly after the 1 year anniversary of the first revelations by Eric Snowden that American spy agencies have their fingers in everything, the Russian government will be funding a project to build a custom microprocessor. Codenamed Baikal (after the lake with Earth's largest volume of fresh water), it will be built around an ARM Cortex A57, a 64-bit architecture running at 2GHz. No core count or other details are available. First deliveries are expected in 2015.

The ARM architecture aligns with Vladimir Putin's goal, announced in 2010, to move all government computers onto Linux. It also comes in the wake of another large country's recent barring of some American technology in favor of a homegrown Linux distro.

 
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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:13PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:13PM (#58793) Journal

    I think you mean ARM. The problem Putin will find is that ARM doesn't scale, the absolute best ARM chip on the planet can't even beat a Pentium 4 across the board and that is a nine year old chip, put the latest ARM against a first gen Core or Phenom and it just gets slaughtered when it comes to IPC. All he is doing is making sure Russia stays a decade behind when it comes to computing power.

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  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:32PM

    by kaszz (4211) on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:32PM (#58798) Journal

    Doh, doh, didn't think of that. I will demand that ministry of fat contract distribution immediately change the design contract to other beneficiaries ;-v

    Any other architectures that are suitable and thus scale? x86 does have a lot of historic left overs that one could be done with.

    • (Score: 2) by present_arms on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:41PM

      by present_arms (4392) on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:41PM (#58800) Homepage Journal

      It is ARM they are going to use, and they have a licence to use it. To be honest the speed of the chip won't be an issue, it's going to be used for governmental use, so as long as it can run a word processor, spreadsheet and a database it doesn't really matter, hell my 600 Mhz arm in my n900 can run debian just fine with open office, so a 64 Bit 2GHz chip will fly under those conditions.

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      • (Score: 1) by Horse With Stripes on Sunday June 22 2014, @10:22PM

        by Horse With Stripes (577) on Sunday June 22 2014, @10:22PM (#58814)

        so a 64 Bit 2GHz chip will fly under those conditions.

        It's vaporware until it's produced in quantities.

        • (Score: 1) by present_arms on Sunday June 22 2014, @11:29PM

          by present_arms (4392) on Sunday June 22 2014, @11:29PM (#58820) Homepage Journal

          True, my point was that if they did go ahead and made said chip, it'll be powerful enough to do whatever they want with it. I had seen a story on OS NEWS where some clever man got full motion video from an Intel 8088 and a cga graphics card, and another doing the same with a commodore 64. It was more of a reply to what Hairy Feet said about it not scaling too well. I just thought that it didn't matter that much considering the plans they say they are going to use for the chip, basically office shit. but yep right now it's vaporware.

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          • (Score: 1) by Horse With Stripes on Monday June 23 2014, @12:03AM

            by Horse With Stripes (577) on Monday June 23 2014, @12:03AM (#58823)

            my point was that if they did go ahead and made said chip, it'll be powerful enough to do whatever they want with it.

            Yes, it will have power to spare at 2Ghz. I wonder which Russian companies will be making the motherboards and the supporting chipsets? Surely they aren't going to build a homegrown processor and then farm out all of the supporting technology.

            • (Score: 1) by present_arms on Monday June 23 2014, @01:12PM

              by present_arms (4392) on Monday June 23 2014, @01:12PM (#58979) Homepage Journal

              Agreed, although I think they are still friendly with China. They could just get a load of Rasberry Pi haha

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              • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday June 23 2014, @05:30PM

                by Gaaark (41) on Monday June 23 2014, @05:30PM (#59088) Journal

                "Oh yeah... raspberry pi... gotta get me some of that. Love me some raspberry pi... and a hooker too, yeah...."
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  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 22 2014, @09:52PM (#58802)

    I'm pretty sure I wrote ARM in the submission.
    I know I had "Homegrown" as 1 word in the title (as it still is in the text).
    I also had a second link that went to Phoronix; that was deleted.
    I've seen worse editing, but I'd have to go back a bit.

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    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by martyb on Monday June 23 2014, @02:52AM

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 23 2014, @02:52AM (#58857) Journal

      gewg_ wrote:

      I'm pretty sure I wrote ARM in the submission.

      Upon seeing your comment here, I looked up the original submission [soylentnews.org] and found the AMD reference there, as well.

      I agree it should have been ARM, and have updated the story.

      I know I had "Homegrown" as 1 word in the title (as it still is in the text).

      Yes, it appears you did. The submission, however, lacked proper headline capitalization. Correcting this required modifying several words in the submission.

      I am not one of the original editors, so I cannot speak to their thinking. To their credit, though, I would point out that it is common in the English language for pairs of words to go through a gradual "merging" process over time. Frequent occurrences of two words in sequence, will occasionally over time become a single, hyphenated word. Then, with still more time and use, this hyphenated word may become a single, non-hyphenated word. In other words, language evolves with time.

      Still, I checked a few references. For example, I checked dictionary.com and found that both home-grown [reference.com] and homegrown [reference.com] are listed as valid words.

      For consistency's sake, I have changed the headline text to match the spelling in the story text.

      I also had a second link that went to Phoronix; that was deleted.

      I found three links provided at the end of the submission; i.e. not imbedded in the text as hyperlinks.

      This meant it was left to the editors to find a way to work the provided links into the story in some reasonable fashion. For whatever reason, the editors elected to not work the dangling link to Phoronix into the story text.

      For the curious, that link was: Russia To Replace AMD/Intel CPUs With 64-bit ARM Hardware [phoronix.com].

      I've seen worse editing, but I'd have to go back a bit.
      -- gewg_

      I was a bit disturbed when my first story submissions were edited into something different than what I had submitted. I had put considerable work into formatting and phrasing it "just so". It was explained to me that is what editors do -- they edit things! Further, when I am editing a story, within about 10 minutes, things turn into a blur-of-text (which, in about 50-100 years will be spelled "bluroftext" :)

      The work you see here is all done by volunteers who have families, day jobs, and all the other attendant challenges and distractions of life. Yet, they take time from their day and give it freely to support this web site. I've spent no less than an hour investigating and writing up this response, late on a Sunday night.

      The point being that we do try our best, but sometimes things get past us. And, yes, that bugs us, too.

      So, from my investigation, I see: (1) a mistake that was in the original submission made it past the editors and to the posted story; (2) Over-zealous correction of an incorrectly-capitalized headline introduced a different, though valid, spelling of a word; and (3) a separately-listed URL was not included in the story.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 23 2014, @03:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 23 2014, @03:58AM (#58875)

        The work you see here is all done by volunteers
        My single-word subject line and the rest appears more harsh than my actual feelings.
        I use really nasty words when I'm truly upset.

        I was a bit disturbed when my first story submissions were edited
        The thing I objected to most, I didn't mention:
        the addition of "some" to the title.
        The Russian gov't (like the Chinese gov't) appears to want American technology out of the loop, so that was blunted.

        ...and, of course, I always assume that my own work is flawless. :roll:

        -- gewg_