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Say a friend of yours gets a job in the US, would you recommend him to move or not? Why?
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(Score: 1, Troll) by bradley13 on Saturday April 28 2018, @01:53PM (2 children)
You know, you're probably right: Living in the US as a black person - at least a black person from elsewhere - must be hellish.
That said, the fault lies almost entirely with...the American blacks. They are the ones keeping racism alive, by pulling the race card at every opportunity. If you hire a black person, any if anything doesn't go their way, they will accuse you of racism. So you avoid hiring blacks, because you don't need that crap in your business - therefore you become a racist. The only option you have is to treat blacks with kid gloves, make special allowances, make sure that they don't stub their toe anywhere. Even incompetents must be kept on, and other people will have to pick up the slack. Which causes resentment and drives racism.
Or take a look at the recent Starbucks incident. Two guys hanging around, disrupting a business, but not even as paying customers. Who brought race into this? The guys who were doing the disrupting. So you don't want blacks around your place of business either. You don't want blacks as customer either [dailymail.co.uk] - same thing, if they don't get their way, they'll pull the race card and disrupt your business. Want to keep disruptive customers out of your business? You are - correctly - a racist. If you want to avoid problems, you again have to give blacks special treatment. Which causes resentment, and drives racism.
Now you have American blacks calling for segregation. Segregates businesses, even segregated territories. Clearly, they know nothing of history, not even recent history. They should be careful what they wish for...they might get it.
I forget who it was (maybe Jerry Pournelle?) who originally wrote something I find completely appropriate: Back in my younger days, I thought everyone should be treated as an individual, regardless of skin color - and that was seen as hopelessly liberal. Today, I think everyone should be treated as an individual, regardless of skin color - and that is seen as hopelessly conservative.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 2, Touché) by idiot_king on Saturday April 28 2018, @03:43PM
Why are racists so unpersuasive?
You know it's fascinating, for something that you spend so much time thinking about, you'd think some of you asshats would've figured out how to sell it by now.
But maybe that's because racism is inherently illogical and unpersuasive anyway.
Maybe you should... drop it. And, you know, join the rest of humanity.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @06:38PM
How were they disrupting the business? The Starbucks manager was disrupting the business - calling the cops is far more disruptive than letting two guys sit and wait. Lots of whites took a look at the Starbucks incident too and they said they have never been forced to pay first before using the toilet (in fact some prefer to use the toilet before ordering just in case it takes longer than expected for them to get their drink). And many have hung out in Starbucks for ages without being asked to leave or the cops being called to kick them out.
Heck meeting people at Starbucks was their fucking selling point at one time: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/new-starbucks-campaign-touts-role-as-global-hangout/ [seattletimes.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQmVpHQ8ENs [youtube.com]
It wasn't "Meet me at Starbucks unless you're black".
Even in my semi-civilized third world country I've waited for people at Starbucks without buying anything and the cops weren't called on me. And I've waited longer than the two or so minutes the Starbucks manager took to call the cops: http://www.complex.com/life/2018/04/police-arrested-black-men-in-starbucks-called-2-minutes-after-men-entered [complex.com]
Furthermore those two guys were also held for about EIGHT HOURS at the station. Why so long?
So why should those black guys be forced to have worse choices when the whites aren't?
e.g.
a) Buy stuff
or
b) Leave
or
c) Get arrested by the cops and held for 8 hours.
If the whites wouldn't accept this why should the blacks accept it?
Yes more blacks should reject the terrible gangsta culture that too many of them glorify and love (many do reject it), but the fault far from entirely lies with the blacks. Apologists like you take far more of the blame. You help the worse racists justify their racism.
Lastly, it's no surprise the blacks get so used to pulling the race card and thinking people are being racist when so many US cops and people are actually racist. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/employees-fired-nj-gym-racial-profiling-report-article-1.3942390 [nydailynews.com]