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From CNN reporting:
The National Rifle Association is setting aside years of documents related to its interactions with a Kremlin-linked banker, as the gun-rights group appears to be bracing for a possible investigation, according to sources familiar with the situation.
The NRA has faced fresh scrutiny from congressional investigators about its finances and ties to Alexander Torshin, one of the 17 prominent Russian government officials the US Treasury Department recently slapped with sanctions. The gun-rights group has said it is reexamining its relationship with Torshin, who is a lifetime NRA member, in the wake of the sanctions.
The renewed attention has highlighted the close-knit if sometimes uneasy alliance between top NRA officials and Torshin -- a relationship that ensnared members of Trump's team during the presidential campaign, inviting further congressional scrutiny.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @07:59PM
Wealthy people buy political influence. This was the Clintons business model and it's wonderful to see that CNN's senior political analyst is no longer involved with Soros funded ProPublica. Things like that are especially important for an organisation where the parent company is still listed on the site of a Russian asset they supposedly sold in 2015. [cartoonnetwork.ru]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by KiloByte on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:19PM (8 children)
Hmm, suppose there's an orphanage standing on land I want to put my new golf field on. So I ask a friend who happens to be related to something that's currently unpopular to donate to said orphanage. Sounds like a plan!
Ceterum censeo systemd esse delendam.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:28PM (7 children)
I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding your statement. So Torshin is really a deep-state DNC operative trying to destroy the NRA so the government can finally take away everyone's guns? I'm adding some subtext, but I feel like I must be misreading your statement.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:32PM
He's just standing up for the Second Amendment rights of Russian citizens to arm and ride bears, and overthrow the government on any given October. That's all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:11PM (1 child)
I think Kilobyte means the "Magnitsky act":
When the Kremlin Says ‘Adoptions,’ It Means ‘Sanctions’ [nytimes.com]
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:36PM
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It couldn't have been hard to quote written sources or give examples of the tit for tat game going on, instead of just providing an opinion via a tweet.
(Score: 2) by KiloByte on Sunday April 29 2018, @12:02AM (1 child)
My point is that, if person X promotes cause A, X having flaw B doesn't mean A and B are related.
Ceterum censeo systemd esse delendam.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:50PM
I actually agree with you. I don't think that the NRA officials were intentionally forwarding the Russian party line. I just thing that Putin looked over the situation and decided that strengthening the NRA was the best way to weaken the US government, or one of the best ways. And that this didn't require them to change any of their policies, merely to give them a bit more power, and point out ways they could use it.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:25AM (1 child)
No, I'd say that's pretty accurate. School shootings also are being propagandized.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @07:49AM
And propaganda is being used to enable school shootings, and the Russians and the NRA and Trump are all to blame for that.
(Score: 3, Informative) by MostCynical on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:30PM (1 child)
it used to be "power corrupts"
Now, though, it seems to be "other people's money corrupts"
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:25PM
If that does not work. Imply that they are corrupt by tying them to a 'boogie man'. Then invent terms to label them with to make sure it comes off slick and meme like.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by idiot_king on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:36PM (18 children)
I don't need to point out that the NRA can now be considered a terrorist organization, but it's becoming more and more clear that Russia just wants to undermine the US in full.
They hate democracy, they hate diversity, and since they're funding the terrorist-enabler org known as the NRA, how can we not consider Russia a hostile state yet?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by black6host on Saturday April 28 2018, @08:58PM (8 children)
Russia a hostile state? Ok, I'll buy that. NRA a terrorist organization? Nah, I don't think so. You've had the kool-aid that has completely changed the meaning of "terrorist organization". Hell, I bet some people consider the PTA to be so... But you don't see the NRA promoting violence. Just because some members do does not reflect on the NRA. I bet a lot of those folks have AAA memberships as well. Does that make the AAA a "terrorist organization"?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:20PM (1 child)
Seems in keeping with the values of today, terrorist is now the catch all for any undesirable activity that isn't directly supported by a nation state.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:05PM
You forgot to add "when such activities are committed by a person of color."
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:23PM (4 children)
Maybe they want to pretend they are 'smart' and hate on the 'alt-right' organizations. I realized around the year 2000 all of the 'news' is manufactured. All of it. The current 'narrative' is to get rid of guns. A manufactured thing to basically erode public trust in their enemy's.
Basically one of the tenants of Marxism and the Saul Alinsky school of thought is to attack the organizations/people that support your 'enemies'. That is the methods being used here.
Pretty much the ACLU defends the first. The NRA defends the second. I do not always agree with them but they serve a purpose.
Want another eye opening thing to see? Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6bSsaVL6gA [youtube.com]
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:37PM (1 child)
Their enemy's what? Please, finish the sentence?
Tenets? Didn't you mean tentaments? Why is "enemies" in scare quotes? Are you Russian, or just a normal functionally illiterate lifetime NRA member?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 28 2018, @11:40PM
Their enemy's enemy, which would make them your friend. Unless they are also your enemy, which would make them your enemy. But if you are both of their enemys then that would make them friends, which would cancel out them being your enemy's enemy.
Now that I look at that, maybe that AC was right to just leave it at "enemy's".
(Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:51PM (1 child)
Not exactly. It is worse than even you are assuming.
ACLU was born corrupted. The NRA though predates the Communists and has been very consistent in being the oldest civil rights organization in continuous operation.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @06:46AM
Re-writing history, again, jmorris? Who is paying you to do this? Could it be, Ruskies? The NRA started as an organization promoting marksmanship, so that the US would have enough cannon fodder to throw into things like world wars. Having your ass conscripted and attached to the butt of a rifle is kind of the opposite of civil rights. But, nice try for your Russian Bear masters! Although, in light of your pathetic and total failure in this regard, I would be wary of door knobs, and other places neurological weapons could be placed. No accuracy need for those!
(Score: 0, Troll) by VLM on Sunday April 29 2018, @02:59PM
SPLC is a better example. Or the ADL. Although there isn't much difference.
(Score: 0, Funny) by XivLacuna on Saturday April 28 2018, @09:08PM
The media who coincidentally is run by a bunch of people who just happen to be Jewish are angry that Russia is interfering with their Greater Israel plans by supporting the legitimate government of Syria.
Seriously I don't care if Israel wants to take over the area, I just wish they'd use their own shekels instead of ours.
Money spent on bombing Syria over lame gas hoaxes could instead be spent on the wall, deporting illegals back to the shitholes they came from, road repair, and/or fibre internet deployments.
Fun fact: Most prominent gun grabbers in the media are by some coincidence Jewish.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Captival on Saturday April 28 2018, @10:48PM (3 children)
What a complete dipshit. You have a President who literally and seriously loophole'd his way through strict sanctions in order to be able to send an unmarked plane filled with untraceable foreign cash, payed by taxpayers, to give to Iran, even though his own State Department says they're the #1 worldwide sponsor of terrorism. You bought million dollar presents for terrorists. No, I don't care if it was "their money in the first place" or not. You sponsor America-hating terrorists and fight to let even more of them in our country. Trump can accept money from anybody and fuck porn stars on live TV - he's still way better than your Muslim Terrorist Ass-Kissing Sycophant.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @01:01AM (2 children)
I don't know if you're trolling or really are that fucking stupid. You can't even get your tenses right.
As opposed to your Russian Oligarch Ass-Kissing Sycophant?
"Hi Putin, it's your good buddy Trump. Congrats on winning your election!" Even after the orange stain was told repeatedly DON'T CONGRATULATE PUTIN.
This is why we can't have nice things...
(Score: 1, Troll) by jmorris on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:06AM (1 child)
You mean people told him not to repeat Obama's mistake? You do know Obama called Putin to congratulate him after winning his last "election" victory. Right? You do know that, you don't just get your news from media, right?
But fuck all that noise, lets get to the big ol elephant in sitting in the vast empty void of your mind.
WHO. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK. are these people to tell the President of the United States what he "must do" or "must not do" anyway? They give advice, if they want to make decisions they need to come out of the Deep State shadows and actually run for the office. And where did YOU get it into your head a President "must" obey when these mysterious "THEY" give an order? Eliminating this very idea is what "Drain the Swamp" is all about, and I for one am damned happy Trump ignores the "experts" when his own superior instincts give him better advice. After all, listening to the "experts" is why the world is tottering on the edge and Trump has to clean up all of these messes that have been festering for decades in the first place.
Look at Korea. With a little more luck, soon we will be calling it that again! Won't be quite as exciting as the day the Wall fell but damned close. All the experts assured us North Korea was simply unsolvable, so don't blame them when they utterly failed to stop the Kims from proliferating and otherwise being insane in the brain. Trump understood instantly where the pressure point was, same place I have pointed to for years here and the other place, China. Trump also apparently figured out how to activate that pressure point.
Of course there is a downside to all this Winning! because Trump is now likely to believe he can fulfill another of his campaign promises and I doubt even his mighty balls can bring peace in the Middle East.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @06:23PM
Yeah its all a massive conspiracy to prevent the dictator for life you so dearly want to have. Fuck off jmo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @01:05AM (1 child)
Yeah, and next week we'll learn that our first amendment rights are just a farce funded by the Russians with money funneled through the treasonous ACLU.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @01:08AM
Looks like it happened 60 years early.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 29 2018, @05:29AM
Found the CIA operative.
(Score: 1, Troll) by VLM on Sunday April 29 2018, @02:58PM
Look into the background who who runs the USA and the background of the commies who the Russians overthew... they're the same people, so naturally the USA media hates post-cold-war Russia.
So if the biggest enemy of the people of USA is some of the left leaning leadership of the USA, and the Russians are aligned against them, that means who the Russians are opposing depends on your definition of what the USA is, is it 99% of the country or 1% of the country, but whatever it is, its certainly NOT 100% (or 0%) of the country as per the claim of "in full"