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HP gaming headset cools you down using thermoelectrics
One of the worst things about over-the-ear and on-ear headsets is that they tend to feel hot and uncomfortable after a few hours, especially if you live in a muggy environment. HP has just announced a pair of headphones that can keep you cool even during whole-day gaming sessions -- unlike other similar options, though, they don't use fans or cooling gels. At the HP Gaming Festival in Beijing, the tech giant has launched a number of new devices under its Omen gaming line, including the Mindframe headset that uses a patented thermoelectric cooling technique.
The headphones have a thermoelectric device inside their earcups that conducts heat from the acoustic chamber and directs it outside. Engadget Senior Editor Devindra Hardawar got to hold a sample of the device, and he said it was like having an AC pressed against the palm of his hand.
Soon we can spend 16 straight hours in VR without sweating all over the headset/phones.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:30PM (3 children)
let alone thermophiliac headphone
(Score: 2) by Revek on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:35PM (1 child)
Yeah, you need to travel more.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday May 30 2018, @09:39PM
Literally. I've seen Bazaars in South America, that ironically, have sega genesis machines and the cartridges for sale. A lot of our second hand crap makes it down there, and I've seen guys down there clearly into the modding scene.
Yeah, a bullshit statement :)
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:50PM
Buy a webcam and become a "findom" [urbandictionary.com].
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(Score: 2) by Revek on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:32PM (2 children)
You can just sleep in a pod with immersive gear still attached. Stay there until you atrophy away. MwwwAaaaaaaaa!
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:48PM
I wasn't going to go there. But you went there so kudos.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 31 2018, @12:16AM
Living the dream!
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:36PM (8 children)
Too many other real world problems to worry about.
Moving on.
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(Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:48PM (1 child)
Gaaark collects all excess sweat using his moisture farming equipment.
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(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 30 2018, @11:19PM
Oh, if only I had the time to game for hours on end.....
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(Score: 0) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:20PM (5 children)
Clearly there is a market for VR headsets. Some put a hot sweaty box around your head, some keep it cool with a noisy fan blowing in your face drying out your eyes, and this thing turns the outer shell into a heatsink while keeping the inner cool. I understand you have your very real mouth-herpes outbreak to worry about before you give VR any thought, but we're talking about the VR headset market - about 15mil units sold in fiscal 2017 (although not to me).
Don't forget to take your lysine on an empty stomach.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:46PM (4 children)
Is this VR? The submitter said VR. But the article doesn't say VR. They call it gaming. Although I ran three casinos very successfully. I made Atlantic City what it is today. And the only folks that had headsets were in my call center. Doing phone calls. I don't call that gaming!!
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 30 2018, @09:48PM (2 children)
A Den Of Iniquity.
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(Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Thursday May 31 2018, @04:28PM (1 child)
What what now? Is that the den where you live in front of your computer screen 10 hours a day or some nerd reference to the locker inside which you spent highschool?
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 31 2018, @10:21PM
While I don't require Jesus to be divine I do feel the historical Jesus was inspired.
And I really do read the Bible, most commonly when I'm in the slammer.
I was referring to the moneychangers in the temple. JC wasn't down with that so he beat them all up then threw them all out.
That was totally righteous.
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(Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Thursday May 31 2018, @03:20AM
How sad it's got to be to take a stupid joke and keep doing it, and doing it, for hours and hours and hours. I'm guessing the point is there not a more interesting way for some really really big losers to spend time, and a dog eating its own vomit is an endless cycle. I get it - you can talk similar to that bumbling idiot. Good job.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:24PM (6 children)
Hope they did something about the horrible carnot efficiency of thermoelectric cooling, or it will have to come with a very large battery.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-TEC-Thermoelectric-Cooler-Peltier-12V-LW-SZUS/181947419256?epid=1349414239&hash=item2a5ce94a78:g:Pj8AAOSwbdpWXLmI [ebay.com]
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:34PM (5 children)
I think you're probably OK, AC. Figure my ears are a fraction of 1 percent of my body surface and my basal metabolic rate is a cool tenth of a kilowatt, even if the COP of a peltier device is much less than 1 (unless something shocking has changed since the late 80s, which I suspect it has not...) then a watt or so of peltier input power will give a couple milliwatts of cooling which is probably adequate.
Two problems, now you're dumping heat right next to your head, and all the heat transfer in the world won'y help with the summary mentioned "swampy" so you'll have condensation problems on the electronics which is probably a value engineering feature to get you to buy new gear on a regular basis.
Probably a cheaper way to get better head cooling is a nice shave. I don't hang with the FPS sequel crowd enough to know if shaved heads would be cool, are cool, or would not be tolerated. Or a nice short buzz cut, at least.
Sweat is likely a big issue for VR pr0n applications or VR exercise applications. I would not want to participate in either using the PS4-VR I got to use for a couple hours.
If would be an interesting engineering challenge to build a space suit like VR helmet that blows nice cool air on your head without blowing air on your eyes. Insert usual BS about the dangers of Korean Fan Death Syndrome of course.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:43PM (2 children)
Online, and in the virtual world, nobody knows you are a bald head girl.
Westerners don't have the myth and the target audience in South Korea probably does not care:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:52PM (1 child)
Whos getting the better deal out of internet culture? The west gets the "red pill" to modernize, rationalize, and reality (re)base politics and gender relations, the Koreans get the "kimchi pill" which merely mythbusts the dreaded fan death syndrome.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 31 2018, @01:18AM
Well we are subjected to your red piller crap, so I'm going with native English speakers are getting the short end of the stick. Thankfully the short stick fits on the short bus we have to ride with you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:57PM
I've played around with these a bit in order to do what these earphones are proposing to do and it's still an energy hog. Either that or mostly useless. Sounds me like a gimmick to me dreampt up by the marketing department.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/coobod.html [gsu.edu]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 30 2018, @09:51PM
I got such a short buzz cut, then Stephanie told me how much she liked it and that I should always have a nice short buzz cut.
Then Stephanie and I did it like crazed weasels.
To my great dismay I now have Grandpa Crawford's eyebrows. While not as full and Leonid Brezhnev's they are quite long and unkempt. Thus I will get a hair cut this Saturday morning.
O who am I kidding? In reality, I'm going to get all of them cut.
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(Score: 1) by Kalas on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:41PM
I realize noise is a factor here but wouldn't some quiet fan be far more efficient than a Peltier cooler, both in terms of cooling ability and power use?
If the fan can't be made completely silent, maybe place it in the headband, using heatsinks and heat pipes to conduct heat to it from the ears.
And I'm sure there are likely other more viable options I'm not even aware of.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:47PM (5 children)
What do other industries do, like for example everyone inside a recording studio, do they just smoke more weed to ignore it or ... ?
Another industry, the dreaded military industrial complex. Three things disturb me about searches for tank crewman CVC helmets on google:
1) They're cheap on ebay, although I assume those are CID honeypots to catch thieves and really out of date spies, not real offers
2) BOSE has been providing noise cancelling tank helmet headphones since a little after I was in the military; a real hard core tacti-cool mall ninja type video gamer would simply obtain (via ebay, see above?) a BOSE tank crewman headset so as to look cool even if somewhat uncomfortable.
3) searching images.google.com for CVC Helmet Porn found a remarkable amount of CVC helmet pictures, and a remarkable amount of bad porn, but no CVC helmet porn in the sense of "chicks shooting M16s" type of thing. I do believe I've found a violation of Rule 34. I hope that doesn't mean the world is ending or the stars are quietly going out or the zombie invasion has begun. I just never thought I'd find a rule 34 violation on the internet. That is.. so weird. Like am I connected to the internet or did my modem drop or WTF? Where is CVC helmet pr0n? Now I'm worried.
(Score: 5, Funny) by takyon on Wednesday May 30 2018, @08:55PM (1 child)
Sometimes you have to be the pornographer you want to see in the world.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @10:05PM
Congratulations, takyon. You win the Internet for today!
Seriously, you put a smile on my face anyway.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 30 2018, @09:56PM (1 child)
Submarines have thermoelectric coolers lining the insides of their hulls.
This because they are very quiet.
But just now I realized that disposing of the vast quantity of heat in the ultra pure reactor coolant water must be quite a challenge. Dad passed away in 2003 so I can't ask him to blow his clearance anymore.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 31 2018, @12:05AM
MHD pump? May work well if the coolant is conductive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
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