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posted by martyb on Friday June 01 2018, @04:04AM   Printer-friendly
from the pointed-question dept.

A judge has proposed a nationwide programme to file down the points of kitchen knives as a solution to the country’s soaring knife crime epidemic.

Last week in his valedictory address, retiring Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge spoke of his concern that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles and called on the Government to ban the sale of large pointed kitchen knives.

[...] He said laws designed to reduce the availability of weapons to young would-be offenders had had “almost no effect”, since the vast majority had merely taken knives from a cutlery drawer.

[...] He asked: “But why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/knives-sharp-filing-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday June 01 2018, @08:19PM (3 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday June 01 2018, @08:19PM (#687436) Journal

    No it isn't. It's very effective at making sure there are no repeat offenses from the same person, but the death penalty is near-zero deterrent to most of the crimes it's typically meted out for.

    And a little thought should show why: most of those crimes will be committed either in the heat of passion, wherein people aren't thinking rationally and so won't be deterred by hardly anything, or they're committed by people who are sure they'll get away with it and therefore aren't deterred for that reason.

    I have an idea: the death penalty ought to be applied to massive white-collar fraud. You would see a deterrent there because this class of crime by definition needs a fair bit of sober thought and planning to pull off, meaning if someone like Madoff knew he was going to end up strangling at the end of a rope, he might not have bilked all those people out of their savings.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Nuke on Friday June 01 2018, @11:14PM (2 children)

    by Nuke (3162) on Friday June 01 2018, @11:14PM (#687502)

    [The death sentence] very effective at making sure there are no repeat offenses from the same person, but the death penalty is near-zero deterrent to most of the crimes it's typically meted out for.

    So what would be a better deterrent? A 100 dollar fine?

    If we can find no deterrent for people commiting murder, as some are claiming here ("It's done in the heat of the moment" etc etc), then we might as well stop discussing ways of trying to stop future murders. However, we might as well execute people who have actually commited a murder already to make sure they don't do it again, as such people have a tendency to make a habit of it, and the autorities have a tendency to release murderers from "life imprisonment" to save money. Here are some of many examples : http://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/, [execulink.com] http://aboutforensics.co.uk/harold-shipman/, [aboutforensics.co.uk] http://murderpedia.org/male.N/n/nilsen-dennis.htm [murderpedia.org] . It's much cheaper than keeping them inside for life (my local hardware store offers suitable rope at around 30 pence per metre), although I'm told not with the USA's silly way of dealing with these cases - that needs sorting.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 02 2018, @04:17AM (1 child)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday June 02 2018, @04:17AM (#687572) Journal

      Oh, I'm with you on that. But what you're pointing out here is that *the system itself is corrupt.* That doesn't mean the idea behind it is wrong, that means it's badly-implemented. The solution is to make the "justice" in "justice system" actually mean something. Which is another reason I'm for execution for white-collar criminals: it's them and their buddies that bend the law into eldritch origami for their own purposes and allow things to get this bad.

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