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posted by martyb on Monday June 04 2018, @12:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the should-not-leave-your-DNA-lying-around-where-others-can-find-it dept.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/02/us/golden-state-killer-unsealed-warrants/index.html

When the suspected Golden State Killer drove into a Hobby Lobby parking lot in April, investigators were waiting nearby. As he walked into the craft store, it gave them a perfect chance to collect a secret DNA sample.

Police swabbed the driver's side handle of [the suspect's] car, according to arrest and search warrants released Friday.

Authorities sent it for testing and matched it to semen recovered at some of the Golden State Killer's crime scenes, the arrest warrant said.

[...] The stop at the Hobby Lobby was just one of several ways investigators used to zero in on a suspect. Earlier this year, police tracked him down by comparing genetic profiles from genealogy websites to crime scene DNA, according to investigators.

On April 23, a day before his arrest, police say they collected multiple samples from a trash can outside DeAngelo's home in Citrus Heights, a town 16 miles northeast of Sacramento. They had watched the home for three days, the warrant said.

Previously: DNA From Genealogy Site Led to Capture of Golden State Killer Suspect
GEDmatch: "What If It Was Called Police Genealogy?"


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bob_super on Monday June 04 2018, @05:21PM (8 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Monday June 04 2018, @05:21PM (#688442)

    Must be fun to try to get a DNA sample from a car on a parking lot, hoping that nobody pays enough attention to question your behavior.
    Hoping to avoid having to show your warrant before the guy comes back, while making sure nobody blabbers on social media...

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 04 2018, @05:37PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 04 2018, @05:37PM (#688453)

    these pigs are collecting dna without a warrant by purposely misapplying the law. at least one of these morons knows they are full of shit. they are allowed to collect dna from public places. well, my private car is not a public place just because i'm using a public or private store's parking lot. if some judge has ruled it is, he should be in jail or worse. really, there are two violations most of the time b/c these stores private property rights are being violated. the parking lot is for customers to temporarily park to shop. try using it like it's a public park and see how the store deals with it. the stores just suck pig ass instead of fighting back, though. if we let these pigs do this to actual criminals then they will do it to joe smoe eventually.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 04 2018, @06:13PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 04 2018, @06:13PM (#688474)

      I'll take the flamebait. You only have to get a warrant to obtain something that is protected by law. The exterior of your car is not protected from being swabbed. Your trash is not protected when placed on the street. The stores are not having their property rights violated. The property is private but the space is public. The officers were not loitering. If you don't want the exterior of your car being swabbed then don't leave your house with it.

      You need to grow up. The world is a far different place than you wish it could be. No rational person would even remotely consider honoring your warped view of the world.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by donkeyhotay on Monday June 04 2018, @06:55PM

        by donkeyhotay (2540) on Monday June 04 2018, @06:55PM (#688508)

        I agree. I know that there are numerous examples of cops overstepping their boundaries, and committing crimes without recrimination recently, but this is not one of those cases. This is a case where the cops actually did some really good and thorough police work in order to catch someone WHO HAS ACTUALLY COMMITTED NUMEROUS CRIMES and who has alluded apprehension for decades. And now this guy will be given a trial in which evidence will be presented, defense will be made, and his guilt or innocence will be confirmed by a jury of his peers. This is how it's supposed to work.

      • (Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Monday June 04 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)

        by Osamabobama (5842) on Monday June 04 2018, @07:19PM (#688519)

        Your trash is not protected when placed on the street.

        My trash is protected when placed on the street in San Diego.

        ยง66.0402 Unauthorized Collection Prohibited
        It shall be unlawful for any person other than the owner or person authorized by law
        or the City Manager to collect refuse or recyclable material as defined in Section
        66.0102, to rummage in, disturb, interfere, or remove refuse or recyclable material
        from officially designated refuse and recyclable containers.
        (Amended 11-10-1998 by O-18601 N.S.)

        Of course, it's probably not protected from the police, as they work for the city. There may be a minor bureaucratic hurdle to clear, but probably not a warrant.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 05 2018, @07:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 05 2018, @07:07PM (#689002)

        "You only have to get a warrant to obtain something that is protected by law."

        that's different. i'm not arguing that they shouldn't be able to get a warrant. if they have just cause to search then let them put it in writing. why is that so much to ask? because they are criminals, obviously.

        "The exterior of your car is not protected from being swabbed."
        obviously. i'm saying it should be. it's private property temporarily stored in a private company's parking lot for the express purpose of shopping there.

        "Your trash is not protected when placed on the street."
        are you suggesting just because i park my car in a store's parking lot i relinquish ownership like i do with trash?

        "If you don't want the exterior of your car being swabbed then don't leave your house with it."

        so i guess they can search your anal cavity without a warrant too, according to your sycophantic world view. a dna swab of non discarded items is a search. period. warrant required.

  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday June 04 2018, @06:55PM

    by frojack (1554) on Monday June 04 2018, @06:55PM (#688510) Journal

    Must be fun to try to get a DNA sample from a car on a parking lot, hoping that nobody pays enough attention to question your behavior.

    Piece of cake.

    Especially if the Lot is not on the window side of the building. You casually walk between the rows of cars with swab in hand, pause, pretend to look for your "lost car" while you swab inside the handle. Its literally a 3 second operation.

    The guy reading his iphone in the next car won't even notice you or the guy filming you from a beat up looking van for evidence purposes.

    To do it right, you need to be reasonably sure that nobody else touched that car, so you might run an alcohol wipe over the handle when its parked at the Safeway store then follow it to the Hobby Lobby store for the swab.

    Not that hard. People are oblivious most of the time.

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by EvilSS on Monday June 04 2018, @08:55PM

    by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 04 2018, @08:55PM (#688565)

    Must be fun to try to get a DNA sample from a car on a parking lot,

    "Excuse me but why are you putting lube on that car's tailpipe?"

    "Police business sir, please move along"