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The Linux Mint team has released Linux Mint 19 final, codename Tara, in [editions using] the desktop [environments] Cinnamon, Mate, [or] Xfce.
Linux Mint users who run Linux Mint 18.3 or a beta version of Linux Mint 19 will be able to upgrade to the new [release] directly. Those who don't need to upgrade to Mint 18.3 first or install the new version of Linux Mint manually instead.
[...] One of the big new features of Linux Mint 19 is Timeshift. It is part of all [three editions of Mint 19]. Timeshift creates snapshots of the system so that users may restore a previous version of the system using the functionality.
Thanks to Timeshift, you can go back in time and restore your computer to the last functional system snapshot. If anything breaks, you can go back to the previous snapshot and it's as if the problem never happened.
It works similarly to [MSFT] Windows' System Restore feature.
Along with support for Timeshift comes a change in the Update Manager. The Linux Mint 19 update manager suggests [that you] install all updates in the new [release] of the operating system instead of a selection of updates.
The main idea behind the change is that users and admins may restore a previous system snapshot using Timeshift if the installation of updates causes issues. It is still possible, however, to deselect updates so that they are not installed.
Linux Mint 19 comes with one additional update-related [change]. Any user may enable automatic updates in the update preferences now. [In the past,] Linux Mint did not offer a switch to turn on automatic updates [...] because it required advanced knowledge of the distribution to restore broken systems.
English isn't Martin Brinkmann's first language and he's still becoming familiar with Linux and Mint and their terminologies.
To avoid some confusion, note that comments from their Mint 19 Beta article, earlier in June, have been folded into their new article.
In the comments there, AnorKnee Merce notes
[A} Timeshift [snapshot] will take up about 6GB of disk space in the Root or / partition. If this partition is [smaller than] 20GB, [an] "out of disk space" condition will likely occur = a borked system
Additionally, Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is, in turn, based on Debian. All of those use systemd as "an init".
(Score: 2) by Subsentient on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:24AM (4 children)
That kind of functionality is not exclusive to Linux Mint, or any distro.
Of course, I suppose that doesn't protect the bootloader, but a borked bootloader is easy enough to fix.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 5, Informative) by CoolHand on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:38AM (3 children)
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Tuesday July 03 2018, @01:08PM (1 child)
zfs has saved the day many times!!
I'm careful, but we all have bad days...:-/
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @01:07PM
I used to use the reiser system but then my wife mysteriously died
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @05:16PM
Reminds me of something...
-- Dropbox announcement post on HN [ycombinator.com]
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:44AM (1 child)
Haven't had a borked system since... about 15 years ago when I manually deleted glibc.so (not the link, the binary)
Today... why would I need it? My entire system (with heaps of tools, apps, libs installed) cozily sits in 16GB, my /home is 133GB.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 27 2018, @11:08PM
they are mimicing Windows, even when they clearly do not need to...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @11:53AM (6 children)
I liked version(s) 17. The LiveCD included multimedia codecs. Now that Mint does not, I have no use for it. Yes, the software can be installed later, but again I only wanted the LiveCD with codecs. I don't like the hobbled update options and there are other factors keeping me away. But that's okay, Linux is about choice.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:19PM (5 children)
You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.
And I assume them not including the codecs is for legal reasons.
Elaborate?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @03:34PM
Yep. Exactly what I did.
And i love 19 so far. Fastest install. Fastest running and nice looking. It just "feels" right.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:13AM (3 children)
No shit? That wasn't the point. The point was the disc WITH codecs could be used WITHOUT a network connection. Yes, I am aware you can save files to a flash drive and bring it with you and manually install or however else you want to do it. I liked Mint 17 because it came preloaded with codecs and I could take the disc anywhere, especially in places were there IS NO INTERNET and use it with the codecs ON THE LIVECD. Not everyone appreciates or allows strange flash drives or external hard drives with possible firmware malware.
No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are and why you may as well install some flavor of Ubuntu, or better yet, Debian.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday July 05 2018, @03:13PM (2 children)
How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk. You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.
I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 06 2018, @11:11AM (1 child)
>How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk.
It's already been solved for you. If you don't like me, that's fine. But I know you can call me something better than a jerk.
>You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.
But it was mentioned in the 2nd post. So now you know.
>I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.
Whatever makes you happy. It was a JFGI because I've already wasted MY life researching Linux Mint and the pros and cons. I've already wasted MY time reading and discovering that, IMO, Mint sucks for me and many others when it comes to updates (and other reasons). If you want to waste some time, I recommend you JFGI. If not, I'm just going to take this to mean that you would much rather debate, and it probably wouldn't matter what the subject was anyway, because it's about debate/karma points.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2018, @08:29AM
Here it is again, since of course it was buried again, so the user feels good and doesn't have to reply:
>How about explaining what you're complaining about, instead of just assuming I already understand you, jerk.
It's already been solved for you. If you don't like me, that's fine. But I know you can call me something better than a jerk.
>You didn't mention anything about network access at all in your previous post.
But it was mentioned in the 2nd post. So now you know.
>I'm going to take this to mean that you don't have an actual reason.
Whatever makes you happy. It was a JFGI because I've already wasted MY life researching Linux Mint and the pros and cons. I've already wasted MY time reading and discovering that, IMO, Mint sucks for me and many others when it comes to updates (and other reasons). If you want to waste some time, I recommend you JFGI. If not, I'm just going to take this to mean that you would much rather debate, and it probably wouldn't matter what the subject was anyway, because it's about debate/karma points.
-- quoting this since the original was buried -- this will probably be buried too because it's about facts and not about posting when under the influence of emotions --
You can install the codecs *while you're running live.* It's probably like all of 2 extra clicks.
No shit? That wasn't the point. The point was the disc WITH codecs could be used WITHOUT a network connection. Yes, I am aware you can save files to a flash drive and bring it with you and manually install or however else you want to do it. I liked Mint 17 because it came preloaded with codecs and I could take the disc anywhere, especially in places were there IS NO INTERNET and use it with the codecs ON THE LIVECD. Not everyone appreciates or allows strange flash drives or external hard drives with possible firmware malware.
Elaborate?
No need, JFGI. There are entire pages or more explaining how shitty the update options are and why you may as well install some flavor of Ubuntu, or better yet, Debian.
(Score: 5, Funny) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday July 03 2018, @01:15PM (12 children)
Just what I need, another mint release that's named after an ex of mine. Time to switch distros.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday July 03 2018, @05:03PM
Sadly, New York City now requires every developer to help avoid future destruction, by naming all their products "Martha".
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 03 2018, @09:33PM (9 children)
Think THAT'S bad? There was a Rachel release, which was the name of my insane ex, AND there was a Rebecca release, which was the name of a girl I had a horrible, years-long, unrequited, crying-into-the-sheets crush on in high school right around starting to question if I were actually gay or not. How much you wanna bet there will be Vanessa (puppy love in 3rd grade...) and Valerie (first actual girlfriend, in 11th grade) releases too?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Touché) by rylyeh on Wednesday July 04 2018, @12:27AM (1 child)
You forgot Sarah, but I can't!
"a vast crenulate shell wherein rode the grey and awful form of primal Nodens, Lord of the Great Abyss."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 06 2018, @01:34AM
Marshall?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @01:10PM (2 children)
"years-long, unrequited, crying-into-the-sheets crush" and you were *wondering*, really? At this don't you kind of go 'wow, that girl's hot, I'd like to.. no.. wait.. that's not a guy.. I must be... ... .. !!!!!' ?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 04 2018, @08:02PM (1 child)
You would be *amazed* how powerful denial is. I had also been raised Catholic, and I was (and honestly still am) the kind that in the right circumstances would love to be a mother to 3 or 4 children. It was just something I'd sort of taken for granted from early childhood would happen: get married, settle down, have children, It doesn't help I didn't even know what gay was until 14, so for a couple of years I thought this was just some kind of weird overclocked version of admiring her and being grateful for her kindness to me.
The signs were all there in retrospect, but hindsight is always 20/20. I was crushing on models and even some video game characters as a little kid--Celes from FF6 was a big example, though at 8 my idea of "having fun in bed with Celes" would be her reading to me. Ahh, simpler times...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 05 2018, @01:58PM
I see. That explains a lot. I'll just add this to my list of reasons why I don't like religions in general.
You have my sympathies
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @01:13PM (2 children)
see, if you were male that would probably be a years-long, unrequited, masturbating-into-the-sheets crush
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 04 2018, @07:59PM (1 child)
There was some of that too, I won't lie. I don't think it's universal among women as it is among men, but still a solid majority do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 05 2018, @02:11PM
See, if I knew that back in high school I probably would have been far more attentive to girls...
A few years ago I looked up the girl I had a crush on in grade 8. First up, she works in the same place as me in an outer office. Second, from what I can tell she's gay. The things you never knew back then..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 05 2018, @02:09PM
That's a lot of 'releasing' without any 'release'
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 03 2018, @09:53PM
Tara also happens to be the name of the leading mental health facility in Johannesburg. If you were far enough off your hinges the helpful people with the nice white coats that have sleeves which are fitted backwards would come and drag you off to Tara for a while.
(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday July 03 2018, @04:06PM (2 children)
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 03 2018, @10:06PM
I am a bit disappointed by their descision to drop KDE also, although I understand their reasons.
Mint's KDE version was as good as their Cinnamon one in my view. Limited resourses I suppose.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 04 2018, @10:57PM
Same here, but I've been sticking with Mint 17 since KDE 5/Plasma got rid of the ability to set different wallpapers and widgets on each virtual desktop (Bug).
I've recently been trying out Kubuntu, which is obviously the closest analog to KDE Mint, but I'm going to try out KDE neon since it is put out by KDE based on Ubuntu LTS.
https://kubuntu.org/ [kubuntu.org]
https://neon.kde.org/ [kde.org]
Bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143 [kde.org]