SoylentNews is people
SoylentNews
A woman who lived a short distance from where Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned with the Novichok nerve agent has died. Prime Minister Theresa May is "appalled and shocked" by the death:
Police have launched a murder inquiry after a woman exposed to nerve agent Novichok in Wiltshire died. Dawn Sturgess, 44, died in hospital on Sunday evening after falling critically ill on 30 June. Charlie Rowley, 45, who was also exposed to the nerve agent in Amesbury, remains critically ill in hospital.
[...] Officers are still trying to work out how Ms Sturgess and Mr Rowley were exposed to the nerve agent although tests have confirmed they touched a contaminated item with their hands.
[...] Mrs May sent her "thoughts and condolences" and said officials are "working urgently to establish the facts". She said: "The government is committed to providing full support to the local community as it deals with this tragedy." British diplomat Julian King, the European Commissioner responsible for the EU's security union, said: "Those behind this are murderers."
[...] The working hypothesis is that the pair became contaminated after touching a poison container left over from the March attack on Sergei and Yulia Skripal. The death of Dawn Sturgess, a British citizen on British soil, now changes the investigation to a murder inquiry, with all the diplomatic and security ramifications that carries. Britain has been blaming Moscow for the original attack in March, saying there is no plausible alternative to the Kremlin having ordered the assassination attempt. Russia has denied any involvement, suggesting instead this was the action of a weak British government looking to undermine the success of the current World Cup being hosted by Russia.
Here's something from the other side.
Previously: Former Russian Spy Exposed to "Unknown Substance" in Salisbury, England
Use of Nerve Agent Confirmed in Skripal Assassination Attempt
UK Gives Russia Until Midnight to Explain Use of Novichok Nerve Agent
(Score: 1, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Monday July 09 2018, @09:50AM (18 children)
If you think about it, very easy to guess. They make Nerve Gas. And this #Novichok [twitter.com] they're having big problems with -- which, by the way, you always hear about it like it's one thing, it's not, it's many different things, different chemicals. It's like Nerve Gas. Only it's not gas, it's dust. It's Nerve Dust. So many people dieing, right? Where's the Law Enforcement on that one? Where's the arrests? Where's the executions? They say, "oh, Russia, Russia!" They sent the Russian diplomats home. And Russia sent the British diplomats home. Surprising nobody. I mean, you could see that one coming a mile away. No more diplomats. But there was more Novichok and this lady died.
And look when it happened. Right in the middle of the World Cup. Which is being hosted by Russia. And the Russian team, they started at the VERY BOTTOM. They were considered the absolute worst. But they made it to the quarter-finals, they lost to Croatia. Trust me, there's no shame in that. And while Russia is putting on a tremendous show, while the Russian team is playing tremendously, Russia somehow poisons this lady that nobody ever heard of? Doesn't make sense. But maybe somebody wanted to take the attention off the World Cup. And make Russia look like the bad guys. So he puts out this poison. Makes a lot more sense. Or maybe they just lost track of the stuff. They built a Nerve Gas Research Facility and folks start dieing near it. And Theresa May acts all "shocked." It's not shocking, it's exactly what you'd expect. Think about it! rt.com/uk/422252-porton-down-lab-chemical-skripal [rt.com]
I don't think it was terrorists. But I'll tell you, if it was terrorists, they need to get much tougher. Send out extra cops. The Law Enforcement. In case something happens. Because something happened a couple of times. Where are the arrests? Where are the executions? They're VERY WEAK about the supposed terrorists. In Japan they got very tough. And they did a mass execution, they killed 7 guys from the Sarin cult. Aum Shinrikyo. The gas killing animals that put the Sarin in the Subway. And they waited 23 years, that wasn't great. But at least they did the death penalty. And the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, you know what they said. I don't have to tell you, you can guess this one. They said they "regret" it. Incredible! It's not incredible, it's what they do. But it's very sad. 13 people killed. And thousands of people with their health ruined for life. It's been 23 years, they're still having problems, can we say it's for life? Why not, right? But the UN "regrets" that the killers finally got killed. I say congratulations Japan, very smart move!!!
(Score: 2, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Monday July 09 2018, @10:06AM
(cont) By the way, look up Ronald Maddison. Look at what happened to RONALD GEORGE MADDISON of the RAF. Young guy, good looking guy, had a lot going for him. Except, unfortunately, he was British. And for that they killed him. They tortured him and killed him with Sarin. They wanted to make sure their Sarin worked. Believe me, it worked beautifully. Very painful death. At the hands of the British, otherwise known as Gas Killing Animals!!!!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 09 2018, @01:15PM (11 children)
First post modded redundant?
(Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Monday July 09 2018, @01:35PM
British intelligence, they call it intelligence. But it's very dumb. MI5, MI6, GCHQ & JIC. And possibly some we don't know about. The British kill their own people. They killed RONALD GEORGE MADDISON and many more. So many in Australia. Mostly the blacks, frankly. While they perfected their Weapons of Mass Destruction so they can go to war with Russia. So they can kill tens of millions of people in Russia. With the nuclear, with the bacteria, with the chemicals. Now we have people getting sick, people dieing from the chemicals, very close to Porton Down where they make the chemicals. And they hate it when I tweet about that!!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 09 2018, @03:32PM (1 child)
Well I personally like having our own version of the president to yell at.
But, every single post is shtick. I can see that being redundant to some folks...
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 10 2018, @03:38PM
Bet you couldn't tell the diff between realDonaldTrump and real Donald Trump. Some shtick, huh?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 09 2018, @05:07PM (7 children)
*Dramatic Music Plays*
In a world where Takyon posts an article that will be critical of the Russians, one man sits down at his computer with a coffee to save the republic. Deathmoney is a simple communist man looking to do nothing more than point out how Russians are trying to destroy the world.
But on this day.
*Don Don*
Something was wrong.
*Music pitch gets higher*
With his eyes getting red from rage and spitting coffee all over his keyboard he noticed.
The first post was by TheRealDonaldTrump
Our defender of the republic, a good communist fellow from perhaps Alaska, knew what he had to do.
He modded that Nazi, as redundant
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 09 2018, @06:04PM (6 children)
Must be Stalinist. (Or maybe if the quick DuckDuck search I did indicates, just DSA, which is pseudo-left [but good enough for me given the alternatives tbh :/ ].) The Trotskyists don't buy this Novichok crap and suspect that MI6 was involved in the Skripals. I don't think wswswswsws has published anything about this new incident (may have to check the archives, since they're usually pretty on top of things), but personally I don't believe it.
Maybe this time it's actually Novichok (it's not a secret and can be made, including possibly right in London). Who knows. The fact that the Skripals survived means it probably wasn't, and UK won't let international investigators take a look. Maybe there actually was some other poison involved and this person was indeed accidentally exposed. It's all very suspicious, and the media has done a shit job of presenting the case that this is a giant Russian conspiracy.
There are lizard people ancient aliens conspiracies that make more sense than this Russia shit. I've read Weather War conspiracy theories with more supporting evidence.
None of this shit can be trusted. It's the elites trying to Gish gallop us straight for World War 3. Our @realDonaldTrump may be the stopped watch effect (didn't read his whole comment, sometimes they're amusing, other times it's just so much blah).
(Score: 0, Troll) by Sulla on Monday July 09 2018, @06:27PM (5 children)
What I have found interesting about living in the age of Trump when it comes to foreign policy is that he appears to be the first president in a long time who has not made money off of the traditional military industrial complex. The majority of American politicians will make money from conflict between the US and Russia due to weapons sales/research/etc. Trump makes his money on trade, real estate, and hotels.. Trump's ability to make money is hampered by excessive foreign conflict and he stands to make more money if everything gets less hostile. Weird having a president who has personal financial gain to make from peace.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 09 2018, @07:12PM
From peace abroad and at home. Or as the useful idiots on the loony left say, "what a fascist"!
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 09 2018, @07:27PM (3 children)
he appears to be the first president in a long time who has not made money off of the traditional military industrial complex.
All previous presidents divested themselves from all investments to prevent that exact conflict of interests. Trump is the first one to NOT do so.
Your post is the exact opposite of reality.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Sulla on Monday July 09 2018, @07:52PM (1 child)
So Trump didn't divest from investments that would benefit from Peace? Sounds good to me!
Cheney's divestment from Halliburton sure helped us avoid that fiasco. If Bush had not divested from oil we might have gone to war in Iraq. If Hillary stopped kept taking speaking fees and continued their foundations foreign donations we might have sold uranium to our Russian enemies. If Biden's son hadn't quit his job at the top Ukrainian oil firm we might have had increasing border conflict between Nato and Russia. If the Bush and Clinton families hadn't divested from their interests in Saudi oil we might have avoided our involvement in Syria to get a pipeline build by our terms through Syria.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 10 2018, @03:40PM
So we need more conflicts of interest. Huh? What a good idea!
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday July 11 2018, @12:59PM
In June 2016, I sold all my stocks. Because I felt I was very much going to be winning. And I would have a tremendous, tremendous conflict of interest owning all of these different companies. I don't think for me to be owning stocks when I'm making deals for this country that maybe will affect one company positively and one company negatively -- I just felt it was a conflict.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday July 09 2018, @05:30PM (2 children)
You correlate the time of poisoning with World Cup and not your upcoming meeting with Putin on July 16 in Helsinki [vox.com]? The one that make sad so many in the Washington swamp?
You must be less intelligent than even CIA and MI6 together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday July 09 2018, @08:34PM (1 child)
So many folks tell me the world revolves around me. They're right! And there's not much that can come between me and President Putin. But I have other trips coming up. I'm going to Brussels for another of those NATO meetings. VERY BORING. And I'm coming to London. Very short visit but I'll see the Queen. Theresa May, if I have time. And I was hoping to meet Boris Johnson, he's a huge fan. And I love what he did with the Brexit. But unfortunately he just resigned...........possibly we'll work something out. I wonder if he'd like a job in the White House!!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 10 2018, @03:45PM
Job at the Whitehouse might not fly with the "folks" back home.
https://www.angloinfo.com/blogs/global/us-tax/new-record-over-5400-renounce-us-including-boris-johnson/ [angloinfo.com]
(Score: 4, Funny) by HiThere on Monday July 09 2018, @06:27PM (1 child)
WRT realdonaldtrump, the parent poster:
Unfortunately, you lie so often I can't believe you. You may be attempting to tell the truth, or you may just be lying more subtly than usual.
This post, and my reaction to it, is starting to cause me to consider automatically moderating anything you post as troll, redundant, or overrated without reading it. The proportion of lies in your posting is so high that I can't tell when you aren't lying. I have a suspicion that this time you were either telling the truth, or mainly telling the truth, but I can't trust it. You've fallen into that section of the Bayesian probability where nothing that you say can be considered relevant.
Some people can be depended upon to lie, and they can provide useful information. (Not very useful, as there's lots of different ways that a statement can be false, but at least some section of the area under discussion can be eliminated.) You, however, are just unreliable.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday July 11 2018, @09:45PM
I don't know what's going on. And I don't think anyone really knows. Except the killers. But there's a theory that the poison came from Porton Down. I think it's an interesting theory. And I made a link -- not easy to do -- to RT. Which tells all about Porton Down. Look, even the Fake News BBC said that there's the theory that it came from Porton Down. They don't say much about it, it's amazing they said anything. Because their reporters & editors might wake up dead if they say too much. But possibly you don't want to read the BBC Fake News article. Any more than you want to read my tweets. Sad!